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    Hey guys - feel free to share your thoughts here!

    2008-04-16 16:17:47.0

    Lots of good logos; good job. Have to say I'm a big fan of soiduflksd.That would be my pick.

    2008-04-16 16:18:10.0

    I went for jacobrendell. I hope that one wins!XP

    2008-04-16 16:22:38.0

    I voted for Blazes and Uri Ar. They will work best as favicon.

    2008-04-16 16:25:00.0

    Got to keep it simple.

    2008-04-16 16:25:14.0

    Yeah, blazes is pretty good.

    2008-04-16 16:25:41.0

    Can we vote more than once?

    2008-04-16 16:25:49.0

    I will refrain from giving my opinion:)

    2008-04-16 16:26:01.0

    You can vote for more than one logo - but only click the submit button once

    2008-04-16 16:26:14.0

    D'oh! I missed my chance then... nevermind

    2008-04-16 16:27:40.0

    :) Heya Michael

    2008-04-16 16:27:54.0

    How are you Mike:)

    2008-04-16 16:28:12.0

    2008-04-16 16:28:50.0

    dek likes! So pretty

    2008-04-16 16:28:55.0

    LOL! I didn't realise that

    2008-04-16 16:29:02.0

    lol nice

    2008-04-16 16:29:28.0

    I twittered this page

    2008-04-16 16:30:05.0

    2008-04-16 16:30:40.0

    I retweeted you Chris

    2008-04-16 16:31:15.0

    mike is having a bad dog day

    2008-04-16 16:32:16.0

    haha no way man - after you mentioned my name on twitter I got 40 new followers - i'm internet famous!

    2008-04-16 16:32:36.0

    2008-04-16 16:34:38.0
    dpn

    mornin'

    2008-04-16 16:34:49.0

    2008-04-16 16:34:51.0

    D'oh!! Beat me:P

    2008-04-16 16:35:09.0

    Wow that was quick as

    Heya DPN

    2008-04-16 16:35:13.0
    dpn

    what the:P

    2008-04-16 16:35:14.0
    dpn

    hey Chris.

    2008-04-16 16:35:27.0

    different or difference:)

    2008-04-16 16:35:31.0
    dpn

    by the way, embedded tangler ftw!

    2008-04-16 16:35:36.0

    I think we need more of these

    2008-04-16 16:36:01.0

    doesnt work in safari

    2008-04-16 16:37:06.0

    Yeah we are just wondering about that

    2008-04-16 16:37:09.0

    and hitting "return" doesnt submit

    2008-04-16 16:37:13.0

    dmosites - you can if you click through to the forum (click on Data Portability)

    2008-04-16 16:37:30.0
    dpn

    hmm asian bakery downstairs just opened for the first time. freebies!

    2008-04-16 16:37:38.0

    2008-04-16 16:37:58.0

    Yeah, I don't quite like that one

    2008-04-16 16:38:22.0
    dpn

    i voted for a few:P

    2008-04-16 16:38:28.0

    What do you like about it

    2008-04-16 16:38:30.0

    i like the actual design...looks cool

    2008-04-16 16:38:53.0

    i dont know how well it would translate to 16x16

    2008-04-16 16:39:08.0

    which was a key criteria for the comp

    2008-04-16 16:39:17.0

    Hi everyone...mail verification FTL!!

    2008-04-16 16:39:18.0

    Heya Adora - Lisa?

    2008-04-16 16:39:34.0

    yeah, heya again!

    2008-04-16 16:39:52.0
    dpn

    does tangler do openid?

    2008-04-16 16:39:56.0

    i've had a login for a bit - so may have missed the meme

    2008-04-16 16:40:30.0

    2008-04-16 16:41:27.0

    >_<

    2008-04-16 16:41:31.0

    you lie

    2008-04-16 16:41:36.0
    dpn

    am i about to get rickrolled by the most well known tech writer? :|

    2008-04-16 16:41:58.0

    screenshot or you're lyin

    2008-04-16 16:42:24.0

    icka posted a teaser of the techcrunch set...yesterday?

    2008-04-16 16:42:45.0

    how many votes have been recorded already?

    2008-04-16 16:42:55.0

    except uhh...without the techcrunch shirt  =]

    2008-04-16 16:43:01.0

    Many Many votes

    2008-04-16 16:43:25.0

    Adora is even hotter in person;)

    2008-04-16 16:44:28.0

    2008-04-16 16:44:30.0

    adonyao ics2626 are my votes. Rest look like done by corporate identity people - nice looking but too busy for the most part. Simple is key here, low rez.


     

    2008-04-16 16:44:36.0
    dpn

    hell no

    2008-04-16 16:45:03.0

    devolved into sexy pix discussion already, lol.

    2008-04-16 16:45:12.0

    I sure hope not

    2008-04-16 16:45:13.0

    dmosites I think they each have their own purpose

    2008-04-16 16:45:16.0

    I think they would dm... but that's also an interesting political question/result.

    2008-04-16 16:45:18.0

    DATA PORTABILITY > SEXY PICS, KTHX

    2008-04-16 16:45:38.0

    If only OpenID was that hawt. More like ugly cousin these days.

    2008-04-16 16:46:19.0
    dpn

    dp + sexy pics

    surefire winner

    2008-04-16 16:46:20.0

    Actually Adora is going to help send out DP Branded shirts for us right?

    2008-04-16 16:46:42.0

    I was hoping to be able to announce the winner in next month's startup schwag bag, but it looks like the timing won't work

    2008-04-16 16:46:54.0

    unless you guys want to make the rabid data portability fans wait a month

    2008-04-16 16:47:18.0

    Yeah wont be able to wait until then for the announcement - but you can have the logo for the very next release

    2008-04-16 16:47:30.0

    chris, I was actually about to msg you on facebook to talk about it when I saw your twitter msg

    2008-04-16 16:47:51.0

    Any usable code to go with the logo?

    2008-04-16 16:48:03.0

    @Adora skype is better for me - or email

    chris.saad or me@chrissaad.com

    2008-04-16 16:48:34.0

    daveevans our job is not code - our job is developing the best practices

    2008-04-16 16:48:44.0

    there are a number of projects that are working on writing the code - like "practical portability" and Diso

    2008-04-16 16:48:59.0

    we can also create pointers to the code work that others are doing

    2008-04-16 16:49:14.0

    reference platform is important IMHO but I understand.

    2008-04-16 16:49:26.0

    yeah people will build a reference platform - they have started already

    practicalportability.org for example

    2008-04-16 16:49:49.0

    chris - noted, I'll shoot off an email here in a bit

    2008-04-16 16:49:53.0

    but it is not a planned deliverable for the DP project

    2008-04-16 16:49:58.0

    I like what Trent and others have done with the update page, very nice for those of us re-visiting the topic.

    2008-04-16 16:51:30.0

    The update page?

    2008-04-16 16:51:51.0

    this live forum is cool- is there a way to see how many people are 'on'?

    2008-04-16 16:52:07.0

    Oh right - yeah we are doing monthly reports - always very important

    2008-04-16 16:52:40.0

    click subscribers to see who's on

    2008-04-16 16:52:56.0

    yeah, where does it say subscribers?

    2008-04-16 16:53:20.0

    does not seem to do that on the embedded chat - maybe on the full UI

    2008-04-16 16:53:37.0

    I actually think this forum / chat hybrid thing is kindof obnoxious

    2008-04-16 16:53:41.0

    upper left above the orange topic button.

    2008-04-16 16:53:42.0

    First I hear of Tangler

    2008-04-16 16:53:44.0

    just click through to the full forum and you can see it

    2008-04-16 16:53:53.0

    hrm

    2008-04-16 16:54:09.0

    @daveeevans always looking for feedback on the monthly reports- would love to quote you in our April edition about how you find them useful?

    2008-04-16 16:54:33.0

    forums are designed for one purpose, real time communication is another

    2008-04-16 16:54:33.0

    Robin you are out of the loop - Tangler has been around for aages

    2008-04-16 16:54:42.0

    kind of obnoxious to browse chat history, isn't it?

    2008-04-16 16:55:11.0

    seems like Tangler is an implementation of the worst aspects of each, imo

    2008-04-16 16:55:17.0

    hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes saying that

    2008-04-16 16:55:32.0

    I've been out of the loop ever since I was born though

    2008-04-16 16:56:08.0

    only on tangler

    2008-04-16 16:56:11.0

    hahhahaha

    2008-04-16 16:56:16.0

    Sure. Chris, I just made the connection with Particls and you, Trent showed me that a while back. It's all coming together now.

    2008-04-16 16:56:20.0

    I dream about those damn puppets now.

    2008-04-16 16:56:35.0

    @daveevans cool:)

    2008-04-16 16:56:47.0

    how to tweet on a comment/photo here?

    2008-04-16 16:57:04.0

    only $20...sounds like a bargain

    2008-04-16 16:57:05.0

    @daveevans use the share link to link people to this chat

    2008-04-16 16:57:31.0

    Stupid question maybe, but is there a point? I mean, we supposed to discuss possible logos?

    2008-04-16 16:57:35.0

    but you can't link to a specific message in the chat i think

    2008-04-16 16:57:40.0

    @robinwauters it's just an experiment at the moment

    2008-04-16 16:57:59.0

    I think we're just hanging out, Robin

    2008-04-16 16:58:07.0

    Hanging in the hood with the peeps

    2008-04-16 16:58:21.0

    we're having a very serious discussion about puppets in here

    2008-04-16 16:58:27.0

    heya topherchris!!

    2008-04-16 16:58:37.0

    so who thinks we should put one of these on the DP wiki?

    2008-04-16 16:58:37.0

    @adora I roll with Twitter:)

    2008-04-16 16:58:41.0

    Chris I'll contact you some other time for a datadump, eager to participate, have worked with several companies on persistent portable profiles and credentials.

    2008-04-16 16:58:42.0

    Does anybody actually like any of these logos a lot?

    2008-04-16 16:59:08.0

    @chrissaad this actually looks a bit like that JS-kit stuff that was presented in Amsterdam

    2008-04-16 16:59:09.0

    Usability issue #1 : I can't read what's been said above because the window keeps jumping me to the bottom.:(

    2008-04-16 16:59:19.0

    I forget which one I voted for now, to be honest

    2008-04-16 16:59:21.0

    JS kit does not have real-time forum

    2008-04-16 16:59:23.0

    oh is that what this is?

    2008-04-16 16:59:41.0

    Web2.0 logo cliche-fest.  But hey, whatever.

    2008-04-16 16:59:46.0

    Twitter is a real-time forum:)

    2008-04-16 16:59:50.0

    topherchris, I don't think any of them are spot on.  #3 is closest, but that scrawly font has just got to go

    2008-04-16 17:00:12.0

    Twitter is real-time status updates

    2008-04-16 17:00:15.0

    and there is no channels or topics or multi-media

    2008-04-16 17:00:24.0

    twitter is omni-directional communication

    2008-04-16 17:00:35.0

    Agreed on the font.  I liked #4 the best personally for some reason.

    2008-04-16 17:00:53.0

    I'm all for being as simple as the orange RSS logo. Most logos are too busy.

    2008-04-16 17:00:56.0

    I think they are very different - we can't have this type of conversation on twitter

    2008-04-16 17:01:04.0

    I tweeted hostage puppets already.

    2008-04-16 17:01:10.0

    I'd prefer the conversation be on irc, myself

    2008-04-16 17:01:39.0

    could use this for Plugg next time

    2008-04-16 17:01:48.0

    seconded

    2008-04-16 17:01:53.0

    2008-04-16 17:02:34.0

    @dmosites it would in certain cases, like events, earning calls, etc

    2008-04-16 17:02:39.0

    I like that it's so easy to transition to a topic-based discussion. You go to a web page, and instantly chat...

    2008-04-16 17:02:56.0

    I can't seem to last in any irc channel without making too many smart-ass comments before getting booted.  But I digress.  Logos peoples!

    2008-04-16 17:02:56.0

    but the technology seems a lil lacking

    2008-04-16 17:03:11.0

    lol topherchris.

    2008-04-16 17:03:18.0

    michael:  plz, for the love of god, no

    2008-04-16 17:03:25.0

    @michael arrington please, the comments are bad enough already;)

    2008-04-16 17:03:30.0

    like boinboing comments, but real-time flamewars.

    2008-04-16 17:03:35.0

    2008-04-16 17:03:49.0

    /me bats her eyelashes innocently

    2008-04-16 17:04:08.0

    I already am, deadline hell

    2008-04-16 17:04:10.0

    2008-04-16 17:04:21.0

    2008-04-16 17:04:32.0

    Cool

    2008-04-16 17:04:54.0

    I'll probably never get another opportunity to say this, so here goes:  A site I helped design was featured on TechCrunch as being one of the fucking worst Michael had ever seen.  It was hilarious.

    2008-04-16 17:04:56.0

    @robinwalters:  deadline hell?  so what's got you captivated here?

    2008-04-16 17:05:01.0

    @adora I'm in deadline hell because stuff like this captivates me more

    2008-04-16 17:05:25.0

    topherchris, you're shitting me!  Link!

    2008-04-16 17:05:25.0

    2008-04-16 17:05:32.0

    2008-04-16 17:05:36.0

    Yeah, it was great.

    2008-04-16 17:05:40.0

    2008-04-16 17:05:40.0

    Ok, I'll tell.  But remember, it wasn't my damn idea.  I was just a paid freelancer.

    2008-04-16 17:06:01.0

    /me starts to regret accepting topherchris' offer to redesign one of her sites  ^_^

    2008-04-16 17:06:03.0

    does this ring a bell?  SPRINT SUCKS AND SO DOES THEIR NEW WEBSITE

    2008-04-16 17:06:14.0

    I didn't do the design.  just php backend.

    2008-04-16 17:06:39.0

    so technically, I guess he didn't nail my ass

    2008-04-16 17:06:54.0

    I see that nobody is really talking about the logos but either way I like ics2626 logo

     

    2008-04-16 17:07:00.0

    There is a support group e-list for people who have been slammed on TC, don't know the address though.

    2008-04-16 17:07:02.0

    still, when you're involved in a project, a razz like that still burns

    2008-04-16 17:07:06.0

    @daveevans it's called Valleywag

    2008-04-16 17:07:20.0

    @daveevans a support group?

    2008-04-16 17:07:21.0

    did someone setup a laptop/table at adtech today and invite people to vote?

    2008-04-16 17:08:03.0

    I voted for logo number 3 btw, and still think it's the best

    2008-04-16 17:08:14.0

    yes, people who get bad reviews on TC, perhaps an urban legend but I don't mind propagating it.

    2008-04-16 17:08:27.0

    lol @ slamming, don't hold back.

    2008-04-16 17:08:41.0

    @danielabarbosa that would have been smart

    2008-04-16 17:08:45.0

    2008-04-16 17:08:53.0

    The PR firm that did that are total douchebags, so it's not like I didn't disagree.

    2008-04-16 17:08:55.0

    Haha

    2008-04-16 17:08:58.0

     

    Logos in black & white (simulating color blindedness or printing on a b&w printer): 

     

    2008-04-16 17:08:59.0

    hi all.  I have seen a lot of you in person in the last week.
     

    2008-04-16 17:09:09.0

    how does Tangler scale though? Over 20 people and it's impossible to follow

    2008-04-16 17:09:12.0

    Could I see what the logos would look like for a blind person?

    2008-04-16 17:09:26.0

    Make some new topics:)

    2008-04-16 17:09:30.0

    @jackson the treatments are not final

    2008-04-16 17:09:32.0

    Lame that it autoscrolls to the bottom... when I'm reading the above thread.

    2008-04-16 17:09:41.0

    @topherchris lol!!

    2008-04-16 17:09:50.0

    hi @chrissaad what's up?

    2008-04-16 17:10:22.0

    yeah, use marty's link...much better

    2008-04-16 17:10:46.0

    I was confusing a brand type of logo and an icon for a web page like the RSS icon. My bad.

    2008-04-16 17:10:54.0

    Assume those going to be two different images?

    2008-04-16 17:11:29.0

    @michael speaking of ads, did you join AdRoll with TC?

    2008-04-16 17:11:30.0

    when does voting close?

    2008-04-16 17:12:01.0

    friday, I think?

    2008-04-16 17:12:31.0

    hey Michael - I had a great time at the party last week. thnx for hosting.  My only beef - engage shouldn't hire 19 year olds to help promote products at a bar...it makes me feel OLD! Yell

    2008-04-16 17:13:24.0

    @danielabarbosa sure I'll say something in the April issue. I give good quote.

    2008-04-16 17:13:38.0

    @sarahcarr but they were oh so pretty:P

    2008-04-16 17:13:43.0

    as in Suneet's Engage?

    2008-04-16 17:13:58.0

    Is this intended only for logo discussion?

    2008-04-16 17:14:11.0

    actually this page doesn't state when the voting ends on Friday, April 18, at 11:59pm (PST).

    2008-04-16 17:14:24.0

    @daveevans are you the AC/DC singer?:)

    2008-04-16 17:14:39.0

    actually I am the guitarist for U2 Laughing

    2008-04-16 17:15:00.0
    dpn

    i'm going to get work done, kbi all:)

    2008-04-16 17:15:08.0

    it's not a bubble!

    2008-04-16 17:15:28.0

    @michael omg i just laughed out loud from that - non-35 yr old groupie...i love it! haha

    2008-04-16 17:15:40.0

    its a pressure zone.

    2008-04-16 17:15:43.0

    it's a no-negative vibe zone.

    2008-04-16 17:16:01.0

    Puppets and free love and datasharing.

    2008-04-16 17:16:23.0

    I would like to see a company named Bubble get funded, if only for the creative headlines

    2008-04-16 17:16:33.0

    2008-04-16 17:16:53.0

    datasharing is better than doing x.

    2008-04-16 17:16:56.0

    ha ha.  I didn't do the design - I swear to Jesus.  PHP backend cms for those assholes.

    2008-04-16 17:17:22.0

    I have over 50 dating and 10 social network profiles, I need this stuff bad.

    2008-04-16 17:17:31.0

    remember 3Bubbles?  It is deadpooled.

    2008-04-16 17:17:41.0

    @topherchris not so modest!

    2008-04-16 17:17:46.0

    @robinwauters Bubbleshare got funded and acquired.

    2008-04-16 17:18:03.0

    @rcheramy ah there you go

    2008-04-16 17:18:35.0

    kk nite all! it's after 5 - i'm tired, hungry and needa blog 2nite...cya! Twitter me @sarahcarr84

    2008-04-16 17:19:15.0

    @daveevans  i could use that "I have over 50 dating and 10 social network profiles, I need this stuff bad.- so until it is resolved i have to keep up with all those sites and don't have time for in-depth review of the DataPortability project so i just read those awesome great monthly reports"

    2008-04-16 17:19:41.0

    exactly, but then I run the risk of looking like a tool with 50 dating profiles (I work with social and dating startups).

    2008-04-16 17:20:31.0

    Hey, that's my excuse for having so many.

    2008-04-16 17:21:05.0

    I am so tired of looking at the logos, they all seem to run together.

    2008-04-16 17:21:21.0

    Kidding, I don't care. I'm going to be embarrassed on E! True Hollywood Stories next month, now that will be interesting.

    2008-04-16 17:21:56.0

    last logo is pretty good too

    2008-04-16 17:21:59.0

    Phil, nice squint test.

    2008-04-16 17:22:07.0

    the lock? never!

    2008-04-16 17:22:49.0

    haha.  oh.  yeah.

    2008-04-16 17:23:02.0

    I like the golden seed.

    2008-04-16 17:23:18.0

    @topherchris you're not helping your reputation here:)

    2008-04-16 17:23:26.0

    @daveevans you don't need DP, you just need to get out more;)

    2008-04-16 17:23:37.0

    Haha.  There's no such thing as bad publicity.

    2008-04-16 17:23:47.0

    @nick, hahahahah

    2008-04-16 17:24:03.0

    Last time I went out was for the TC party here in Boston.

    2008-04-16 17:24:07.0

    where do people not in the geekosphere go for parties? i mean, without Upcoming, how would we find things out?

    2008-04-16 17:24:54.0

    facebook!

    2008-04-16 17:25:04.0

    The gold seed, that sounds so religious Laughing. nobody voting for the tasmanian devil next to it?

    2008-04-16 17:25:25.0

    if you're here...

    2008-04-16 17:26:06.0

    The Betahouse party here in Cambridge last weekend was full of pasty while developers and startups. People I haven't seen in years.

    2008-04-16 17:26:13.0

    make more friends in the reality-o-sphere

    2008-04-16 17:26:29.0

    ok, i am going to stop.  i want to keep this all positive.

    2008-04-16 17:27:36.0

    I like #7 for the web page icon, not so much for the branding logo though.

    2008-04-16 17:27:38.0

    that implies leaving my computer to go out into The Big Room With The Blue Ceiling And The Yellow Lamp With Horrendous Air Conditioning

    2008-04-16 17:27:59.0

    Thanks for the chat guys.  I'm out.  But if anybody wants help with a site that will get featured on TC (due to it being a pile of shit that I DID NOT DESIGN), don't hesitate to look me up.  Thanks for the linkage Adora.

    2008-04-16 17:28:05.0

    No one else likes second from last?:(

    2008-04-16 17:28:07.0

    see ya, chris!

    2008-04-16 17:28:22.0

    looks like a venn diagram gone wrong.

    2008-04-16 17:28:33.0

    I gotta go do some work too

    2008-04-16 17:28:48.0

    chat soon guys

    2008-04-16 17:28:50.0

    come join the project if u have not already

    2008-04-16 17:28:55.0

    ok i am out of here- my selection process is going to consist of cutting out all the logos and putting them on my arm to see which one would make a better tattoo...

    2008-04-16 17:29:03.0

    It's the Venn aspect that appeals to me

    2008-04-16 17:29:06.0

    what does everyone think of nr. 3?

    2008-04-16 17:29:17.0

    danielabarbosa - LOL!

    2008-04-16 17:29:28.0

    ok peeps, now that I've been shamed I'm heading to the oldes bar in America, right down the street.

    2008-04-16 17:29:41.0

    daveevans- email me danielavbarbosa@gmail.com and we will get your name in bright lights

     

    2008-04-16 17:29:41.0

    i heard someone say the 2nd to last looks like a zygote.

    2008-04-16 17:29:42.0

    love the tatt idea.

    2008-04-16 17:29:49.0

    I like no 3 as well

    2008-04-16 17:29:56.0

    Doesn't quite signify as much, imo

    2008-04-16 17:30:20.0

    ok my new peeps, a pleasure, laters. theprogressbar.com, tweet@ daveevans.

    2008-04-16 17:30:30.0

    I like 1st one because it has the rss/opml icon design pattern.

    2008-04-16 17:30:33.0

    bye dave

    2008-04-16 17:30:59.0

    @nsputnik I think the D & P letters have to remain more subtle

    2008-04-16 17:31:38.0

    @robin which do you like?

    2008-04-16 17:33:31.0

    Dear Tangler, can't add friends because on Mac/FF there is not submit button.
     I'm out, cya,

    2008-04-16 17:33:44.0

    @nsputnik 3 and the last one

    2008-04-16 17:34:58.0

    @robin yeah, same here.  I haven't voted yet because I can't decide.

    2008-04-16 17:36:01.0

    psh, what's the fun in that?

    2008-04-16 17:38:30.0

    The fun of not driving yourself crazy trying to pick just one?

    2008-04-16 17:39:02.0

    @phil can you shrink them all to 16x16 so we can see what they look like really small?

    2008-04-16 17:39:42.0

    ics2626 does a good job of expressing Data Portability visually.

    2008-04-16 17:42:23.0

    yeah, I've moved on to other tasks, too

    2008-04-16 17:43:49.0

    have fun, kids!

    2008-04-16 17:44:08.0

    I guess I came in too late

    2008-04-16 17:49:25.0

    hi john

    2008-04-16 17:56:23.0

    Ok logo question ... are the logo's displayed at the top the ones with the most votes ... sorry if that is already stated somewhere ...

    2008-04-16 18:09:49.0

    no. the order is fixed.

    2008-04-16 18:10:14.0

    And I have to say ... the pad lock logo ... rocks IMHO

    2008-04-16 18:10:22.0

    does the padlock say "data portability"?

    2008-04-16 18:10:54.0

    Ahh that is the question ... perhaps ics2626 says it better


     

    2008-04-16 18:11:49.0

    ics2626 does have a slight ying yang ... or male / female symbol thing going on tho


     

    2008-04-16 18:12:41.0

    2008-04-16 18:19:09.0

    the visual i keep coming back to is the Verizon Test Man with his legion of friends. as you travel, you bring your social network with you.

    2008-04-16 18:29:35.0

    that seems like data portability to me

    2008-04-16 18:30:00.0

    Personally, I like the middle row, second from the left. A very clever yet simple icon with the intertwined d & p and arrows showing movement. Very solid IMHO.

    2008-04-16 19:06:15.0

    This one got my vote:

    2008-04-16 21:07:47.0

    Is this really the best 15?  One or two of these deserve to be here but I hate to say it, I think you left the real diamonds back in the mine.   Given the weak field, and remembering the original guidelines... there are only a couple here that really work in B&W and as favicons... and they don't really convey movement.  It's like an election between Bush and McCain... why vote... it really doesn't matter.

    2008-04-16 22:57:18.0
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