CONFIRMED: Alonso to Ferrari for 2010

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/14619/900/

Kimi said..."With common consent, we have agreed to terminate the contract binding me to Ferrari to the end of 2010"

Perhaps Luca is happy now. I wouldn't have chosen that snivelling, cheating Fernandago in my team, over Kimi Raikkonen, no matter how good a driver he is supposed to be...

Ferrari's loss should be McLarens gain. I fully expect to see Lewis and Kimi at the top through 2010...

All we need now is confirmation of Kimi's move

Hrrrmph....

Kimi always looked better in black n silver than red anyways

They're keeping Fisi as the reserve driver?!?!?!

That's the end of his career then

fake_kimi sez: @fake_hamilton is this the precise moment you were told I'm joining

hahahaha

Q: Many times before you’ve said that Ferrari will be your last team. Have you changed your mind or were you forced to change your mind?
KR: Like I said, there have been many options around and what happened now is just one of them. I think in the end I am happy with what happened, otherwise I would not have done the deal with them. For the moment I have not decided if I want to continue racing, or what I want to do. Before I had a contract for 2010, now not anymore. That changes things. Maybe I’ll race, maybe I won’t.

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/10/10024.html

My poor Kimi

Poor he ain't

...and he's just milking the occasion for all he's worth...just as I would...I'm beginning to like him

I had two large badges made when I worked at Southampton University Hospital...one said "I Know Something" the other said "My Lips Are Sealed"...I used them regularly when there was some rumour going through the labs...It was great sport...

hahahahaha

I like it!

I like you

Fanks! You too

Yes, I like me too

That's good

Renault confirm Kubica for 2010

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5615472,00.html

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Raikkonen to Red Bull in F1 2010 as McLaren talks stall?

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/153283/1/raikkonen_to_red_bull_in_f1_2010_as_mclaren_talks_stall.html

Intrigue abounds, but as usual, it's wait and see...

This Kimi situation is getting too weird....

Maybe Lewis wouldn't agree to having Kimi as his team mate

I saw the news abt Kubica....

I like the guy, but am now unsure if that's a good move or not

He's a mediocre driver and a good whinger...should fit in well at Renault...

As for Webby...the decision makers have decreed that Briatore should not manage any F1 drivers. I don't know how legally binding that is, but loyalty to Briatore will not help Webber's cause in the long run...

The general feeling is that Rosberg is heading for Brawn...doing a straight swap with Barichello going to Williams, but then..........

So now Kubica is a whinger too.

I see.

'But then....' Brawn have actually said they're sticking to what they have

Yes, they have said that...and McLaren have said they are quite happy with Kovaleinen...and Raikkonen has said he doesn't care if he does nothing in 2010...etc...etc

...and it's all politics and nonsense, with a large shovel load of bullshit thrown in...

...and yet we speculate...

Yes...because that's what makes this topic what it is...a little bit of fact as it happens, and a huge amount of speculation...

...But it's still fun, don't you think?

with a large shovel load of bullshit thrown in..

You continually posting bullshit isn't fun, it's pathetic..

It'll only be fun once I know where Kimi will be next year.

Anyone else I not care abt

Seems Reubens *is* in talks with Williams... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8305961.stm

Mightn't be a completely bad thing. Which engines are they using this year?

Williams are currently using Toyota engines for 2009, but apparently have asked Toyota to release them from their contract for 2010...(rumour has it that they may be moving to Cosworth next year, but I think that is purely speculation)..

Hmmm....

Bad move Reubens....

I reckon, especially if they really do use the untried Cosworth engine...

I would have thought it would have been better to switch to the top performing (at the present) Mercedes engine...

Exactly.

But I'm mucho surprised that he's moving at all.

Maybe he's being pushed?

I'm sure Brawn didn't appreciate his outburst (earlier in the year) about them not giving him enough support..

But everything seems to be at peace since then.

Doesn't make sense to get rid of someone second in the title chase...

Well he's driving one of the best cars on the grid and Button has shown that he's not so great now that some of the other teams have developed their cars a bit more..

Brawn got the jump on everyone because of their interpretation of a grey area of the rules, which was later (of course) ratified by the Fuhrer..

I don't rate either Button or Barrichello among the top 5 drivers..

Massa: "Alonso knew about Piquet's crash"

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/14821/900/

now that produced a bit of a panic at Ferrari HQ...major backpeddalling Plan A was rushed into action...

LOL! Looks like that team is in for some fireworks next year

This was an interesting and slightly stinging analysis on Kimi's (possible/potential?) move to McLaren: http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one/2009/09/tim-explains-the-thinking-behind-kimis-move-to-mclaren.html

Yes...interesting. Kimi could yet shoot himself in the foot. He has been more or less forced out of Ferrari, with a huge pay-out, and is now trying to make McLaren give him a disproportionate amount of money from day one. Despite what he says, he is desperate to get a F1 drive in 2010. McLaren have a settled and easy to deal with Kovaleinen in the team. He is not a brilliant driver by any stretch of the imagination, but is a good foil for Hamilton who will undoubtedly do very well next season. Kimi should pull his horns in a bit...he is soiled goods at the moment...and settle for a reasonable contract pay-out...

BTW you are linking through 'Times OnLine' which is apparently extremely dumb and a no-no according to Mrs Sourpuss (aka SOC) down in Brissie

I quite like their F1 articles, which is the only feed from them I have coming in...
He talks about things around F1, like his travels etc, which I enjoy

I agree...they are good articles...for those that actually understand F1

.for those that actually understand F1

Why The 2010 Odds Are Stacked Up Against Jenson

Yeh, I agree....

At the very least, the other teams have caught up, esp those like RBR, plus no one will be running KERS.

I think Vettel and hopefully Webby won't let Button get his way next year

OMD.... this just means I'll have to be at the Aust GP next year. arrrgh

Yep, and this paragraph sums it all up....

4) And unless their team leader pulls another rabbit out of the hat, neither will Brawn start the season with the sort of advantage that they accrued via a crafty reading of the rules to pack a two-tier diffuser on to the back of their car. By the half-way stage of the season, every car on the grid was packing a similar device - at which point Button's run of victories dried up...

You have my permission to attend the Aust GP in 2010, deezee..

Oh yeah! Forgot abt the diffuser...

Wheeee! Thanks andro!

As usual, it gets messy before anything gets settled: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/45065/f1-ecclestone-slams-brawn-gp-over-button-negotiations/

Without trying to upset you...I think Kimi is being rather stupid with his over-inflated ego and salary demands.

He really is not that good when compared to some other drivers. Fernandago has driven less races for about the same points as Kimi, and he has 2 WDC's, more wins and more poles...

Lewis Hamilton has only driven a third of the races that Kimi has...he also has a WDC, half the points, slightly more poles, and only 6 wins less than Kimi...

Toyota have already got fed up with him...and now the likes of McLaren and Brawn are becoming very gun-shy

If he gets Webby pushed over to Toro Rosso, I will be quite furious

It doesn't upset me. I actually don't get what the hell he's on about.

I understand not wanting to take a significant pay cut, but it also seems that he's trying to rock the boat just because he can. Things were pretty stable in terms of the major seats before Ferrari let him go.

I mean, this thing with Button and Brawn. And Barrichello.... I definitely didn't see coming!

But about Webby - didn't he already ink a deal? Him and Vettel were both confirmed for next year weren't they?

They 'were'

...but those at Red Bull and Toro Rosso might still be somewhat interchangeable...

Nah, I think they're safe.

Red Bull are well aware that their best chance for success next year is to stick with these two.

Let the great shuffle begin!

Rosberg to Brawn

*ahem*

...as I reported above on 08 October...

That's like a year in dek's terms... like I'm ever gonna remember that!

So Mercedes buys into Brawn and Brawn picks up Rosberg, looks like James Allen's theory about Brawn becoming the official Mercedes works team and securing Vettel for 2012 may indeed have some creditability..

It's interesting that they've planned for Vettel that far ahead

Yeah, well I don't know when Vettel's contract with Red Bull expires, but I would imagine that Mercedes would like two german drivers in their team, if it was possible..Don't know why James Allen chose 2012 though..

For what it's worth.......

Raikkonen says McLaren the only option

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, October 29th 2009, 16:23 GMT


Kimi Raikkonen has revealed that his only real opportunity to remain in Formula 1 next year is to complete a deal with McLaren.

The Finn is a free agent after this season, having agreed an early end to his contract with Ferrari, yet he has not yet firmed up his plans for 2010.

He has been linked with moves to both McLaren and Toyota next year - but he revealed ahead of Abu Dhabi that there was only one real chance for him if he was going to remain in F1.

"Toyota has not even been discussed," Raikkonen told Finnish television station MTV3. "If I want to drive [F1] cars, then McLaren in the only option. I should know the situation in the next few days."

Raikkonen said in the official FIA press conference in Abu Dhabi that there were other options for him outside of F1 – including rallying or even a sabbatical.

"Basically I have a few different options and we will see what is the best one overall and then make my decision," he said.

When asked specifically about rallying, Raikkonen said: "It is definitely one of them, but I mean it is not just Formula 1 and rallying. There are other things I could do and we will see what happens."

Speaking about the possibility of taking a sabbatical, Raikkonen said: "I can if I want. I can do whatever I want, but like I said before, I haven't made my decision what I want to do yet."

Raikkonen's decision not to pursue an offer from Toyota leaves the Japanese manufacturer facing increasing difficulties to try and find a top-line driver for 2010 – with Robert Kubica also having rejected its overtures to sign a deal with Renault.

The team is understood to have offered both Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock deals for next year, but it is looking likely that both will leave – Trulli potentially for Lotus with Glock closing in on a deal with Renault.

McLaren's Heikki Kovalainen could be one option for Toyota, with Force India's Adrian Sutil also being linked in connection with the team. Japanese Kamui Kobayashi will also put himself firmly in the frame if he impresses again this weekend, following an encouraging debut in Brazil.

Wow.... no one wants Toyota. Maybe the drivers are worried they'll follow in Honda's footsteps.

Do Toyota use their own engines?

Yes they do..

hmmmm

Williams have confirmed that its drivers for 2010 will be Rubens Barrichello and Nico Hulkenberg...

I'm surprised at that.... that Rubens left. Though I guess I shouldn't be.

Bad move for Rubens again

Probably a very good move for him financially...he was getting a drivers pittance at Brawn...

The latest news is that Toyota have pulled out of F1 completely as of now...

Toyota: Pull-out was unavoidable

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47373

At least it now lets BMW/Sauber in for 2010

I saw that! Sheesh

And Kimi was in talks with THEM?? I like how they blamed it on 'his demands'

And with Bridgestone leaving soon, no more Japanese companies in F1!

Who cares...I just hope that ferrari have to pull out as well, following Luca d M's threat to do just that...

mmm hmmm

Pirelli say they will not supply F1...Perhaps it will have to be the company with the unfortunate name...Kumho

HAHAHAHA

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Michelin came back in. Would make the most sense, given they have the most recent experience with F1

I was thinking last night - It'd be bloody hilarious if none of the tyre manufacturers took it on.... Racing sport, with no wheels....

WTF? Renault might be next to go - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8343221.stm

No smoke without fire...I reckon they will soon be on their bike...

hmmm

Check it - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/nov/11/jenson-button-ross-brawn-pay-demands

I think McLaren really really want the two British drivers in one team....

Which kinda reduces the chances of a Brit winning next year, no?

Button has always been a reasonably competent driver, but winning the WDC was a abberation, which was shown by the fact, that Button can win when he is in a vastly superior car, but as soon as the others catch up (even a little bit) then his wins dry up..

Ross Brawn knows that and isn't going to waste £6m on him next year..

Even old Ruebens had his measure (in the same car) towards the end of the season..

I imagine that Hamilton would welcome Button to McLaren, as he (Hamilton) would obviously then become the No1 team driver..

Would be a first for the winning team to not retain any of its drivers, no?

Can't really say, but I imagine this would be the case...

The entry of Brawn into F1 wasn't really done normally either, was it? everything was somewhat rushed ar the last minute..

Ummm.... so?

If I recall correctly, Honda pulled out at the last minute?

Well, Brawn were without any major sponsors at the last minute when they were formed and the drivers were not given any long term contracts or big money, as a result when the season ended both Brawn and the drivers were free agents to either stay together, or to negotiate better deals elsewhere..

Ahhhhhh

I seeeee

And the thick plottens, maybe McLaren will press the Button..

And the Kimster's team was there also..

Palce your bets ladies and gentlemen, who is it to be, cheap and nasty Button or refined and talented Raikkonen?

Knowing McLaren, I reckon they will go for the cheap pom..(unless Mercedes steps in)..

EGAD!! Let it be Kimiiiiiiii!

Kimi's out

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21984.html

WOOT

I'm glad. He is overrated, overpaid and has as much charisma as a dead fish...

F1 will survive without him and his over-inflated ego...

Yes, you can see the worried look on his face..

Yes, that was a happy ferrari picture...but they tossed him aside for Fernandago...a real F1 driver

...shame about the yellow teeth

Bye cutie

Perhaps not...there's always Renault

don't lose hope dek...nothing about the final driver lineups of McLaren or Mercedes has been proven

how about Button/Rosberg, Hamilton/Raikkonnen...or Schumacher/Rosberg, Hamilton/Button...or Rosberg/Raikkonnen, Hamilton/Button...or.............??

We'll see

as always

Yep

Yep

Oh yep

Oh God yep

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/11/raikkonen-drops-out-of-f1-a-fans-view

Ja

James Allen is talking a load of sentimental shit...One WDC by default and a few 'fastest laps' does not make a great driver.

KR is good but not brilliant. There are at least five 2009 drivers who are better all round, than him...

Kimi is pretty darn brilliant. It doesn't mean that there aren't any others. It just means he's good at what he does.

So Button and Hamilton are now team mates.

I think heller just got his Chrissy present

I actually would have preferred to see Hamilton/Raikkonnen versus Button/Rosberg...

...there is still a slim chance that Kimi will race for Mercedes...

Good to see that you read my posts in the 'Off season' thread..(keep it up, you might learn something)

SOC

You are so wrong...as usual, old fool

If you had any brain cells left you would have hovered your mouse over the post times before making yet another booby...

As my post was timed in at 4.36 and yours followed some 12 minutes later at 4.48, I could, if I was as pathetic as you, accuse you of belated copycat posting...

It is still blatantly obvious that you know fu*k all about everything...

Bullshit you old senile wanker..check the times on this.....

yesterday

Or maybe this is all bullshit and Kimi will turn up at Mercedes..

yesterday

Next year, that is..

yesterday

What else could Norbert Haug have meant when he said Mercedes wouldn't be an all German

Dopey old goat..hahahahahhahahaha

You obviously haven't taken your medication today....hahahahahhahaah

But keep checking and you will learn something..(that is if your old defunct brain is capable of absorbing it..hahahahahahahaha

If you want to pretend to be smart, you have to read all the posts, not just the ones that you make, you silly little man....

I realise that you just read your own over and over again and pat yourself on the back and pretend to yourself that you are a genius, but let me whisper in you ear, "YOU'RE A SENILE OLD UNEDUCATED DICKHEAD"

That wasn't news...it was your usual fence-sitting ramblings...Since when have your 'maybes' meant anything...

I sit here with anticipation awaiting another 'this is the maybe news from andromeda the self-proclaimed F1 guru'

You silly old mare...drawing first blood, as usual and getting caught out, as usual...poor, sad old bag...just give up...

Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

You're just lost without Cricinfo, all you have to offer without Cricinfo is bitterness and abuse...

Why don't you write to Cricinfo and ask them if they can supply you with some F1 info, then you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself all the time.....

You old lag......

SOC

That last post is so insane, even for you. I cannot even try to compete with that level of senility, but will give you 10/10 for proving what an old braindead dipshit you are...

I bet you're glad that all this is anonymous...Surely you cannot be so bitterly pathetic in real life...??

SOC

Ok dickhead, I'll make it so clear thet even a retard like you can understand it..

MY posts...

yesterday  (18-11-09 at 4.29pm)

Or maybe this is all bullshit and Kimi will turn up at Mercedes..

yesterday   (18-11-09 at 4.30pm)

Next year, that is..

yesterday  (18-11-09 at 4.32pm)

What else could Norbert Haug have meant when he said Mercedes wouldn't be an all German

The old lag's brilliant post ....

...there is still a slim chance that Kimi will race for Mercedes... (19-11-09 at 4.36pm)

The dopey old fool can't see that his post is over 24 hours later than mine..(what an idiot) and he took umbrage when I congratulated him for reading my posts....

This is great, it goes back to the days when he used to post as 'Isle of Wight' , but stopped when he realised that people understood that he was a dickhead, and here we are almost 5 years later and nothings changed, He's still running off at the mouth with the same old shit....

SOC

What a prime example of a complete Australian one-eyed retard you are...You really believe that what you type is fact...You are a loudmouthed, xenophobic, sad old man, getting all het up and personal, because nobody cares about you or where you are coming from...drawing first blood, as usual and getting caught out, as usual...poor, sad old aussie bag...you're just a joke...

SOC

Orite, I know it's the off season, and we have nothing until the cricket finally starts...

but STOP IT YOU TWO!

aiiiiii

Weirdo

I can just picture that very old reprobate andro, trying desperately to hold onto his hills-hoist whilst croaking "ozzy.ozzy,ozzy...oi, oi, oi" to his long-suffering and non-caring neighbours, down there on the muddy side of brisbane... SOC

Being discovered as the dickhead poster 'Isle of Wight' has always been an embarassment to the jealous old lag..

He's lost again and tries to cover it up as usual with bluff, bluster and bullshit...

the old lag is jealous of my knowledge of F1, but you don't really have to be an expert to know more than the old retard knows....

I'll give you a hint, old lag, try looking for what is really happening in F1, rather than what you and your Pommy centric journo's would like to happen..... I know it must be hard for you, but try checking shortly after you have taken your medication, while it is still working..(or is that when you have your morning snooze and do your knitting/bingo)?

Pathetic (waste of space) old git....

Still dreaming about your fantasy hotel on the Isle of Wight, are you...

"oi oi oi"

SOC

You know fu*k all about everything, old tool...

I realise you're jealousof me and ashamed to be outed as 'Isle of Wight"

That was yet another outburst from aussie andro, folks...reporting yet more bullshit from the joke country at the arse-end of the world...

SOC

Youre getting more pathetic with each post.......You haven't taken your medication, have you..

Mr ISLE OF WIGHT..... What a pathetic old clown....

As mentioned elsewhere.........

Where are the Folks you are addressing here? you retard? As mentioned previously........

"Jealousy is a curse......So is talking to yourself"....

                        DICKHEAD

Schumi to Mercedes still a strong possibility...Raikko...non

I hope they end up with neither and have to take on Heidfeld

"Jealousy is a curse......So is talking to yourself"....

                        DICKHEAD

ozzy ozzy ozzy...oi oi oi

SOC

                   GOTCHA    

                              It's too easy....

ozzy ozzy ozzy...oi oi oi

SOC

The jigsaw is slowly being completed...

Trulli and Kovaleinen for Lotus

Glock and Lucas di Grassi for Virgin

It's going to be a fascinating season...

Good lord, it's gonna take me 1/2 a season to get the teams and drivers. And to remember that the new Virgin isn't the old Brawn.

And then it'll take me the next 1/2 season to find someone I care to support

That's how I feel too...

F1 seems to change its teams and drivers almost as much as the aussies do their bowlers

You will have to support the man that replaced Kimi, of course

Actually, I've always liked Alonso, so maybe I will. But with Kimi gone, I'd rather resume hating Ferrari again

I like all the teams...except for a certain overrated red one

Torro Rosso are a waste of grid space.

Why are they still there?

So that one of the better teams (i.e. Force India) don't have to come last...

HAHAHAHA

Well, there's Lotus for that now

we'll see...

Kobayashi signs for Sauber...

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Just ten weeks to go...

...should be a good one...

March?! That's THREE months away!!

As I suspected..... Schumy looks worse in white than he did in red