Do men wear slippers?

How do you keep your feet warm?

My hubby relies on socks as he feels slippers and other warmish shoes are way too daggy. Socks don;t really do a great job though. Is he alone? Do any of you own some cosy shoes??

+ 1 for Hubby..... 35 years and my sweetheart doesn't have me house trained either...  (even though I haven't a clue what daggy means I'm sure I agree with it).

I have multiple pairs, usually UGGs and a lower, less warm pair for warmer weather.  It's sometimes 13 degrees in the morning in my house in Hornsby and I hate cold feet.  They're also great for going outside around the house when it's too much hassle to put on shoes.

Slippers are gross.... really really rank.... stinky sweaty fungusy germ farms ewww...

I'd rather have warm feet regardless.  The aroma is an added benefit.

I wear the same pair of slippers (birkenstocks) all year round

I have a pair for keeping my feet warm when I get up in the morning in the areas of our house that are tiled or have that fake-wood flooring. After that I'm normally either wearing shoes, or socks and those do the same job

Also, socks and slippers together feels kinda odd to me, like socks + sandals 

I got my first 'feet warmers' last year. Not bad.... just no more sitting with feet tucked under me to keep em warm

What are feet warmers?

Do Birkenstock do slippers? That sounds like a very stylish pair of slippers. Maybe we need a new category! 

My slippers.... tho they're in the process of falling apart.... I've been wearing them everyday (almost) for 3 years now

Dek. They aint slippers. Way too stylish!

I'm talking velvet, terry towelling, still stained from last winter, with a year's dust atop cos they sit in your cupboard until you are so desperate that you wear them.

ahhhh.... you see, I think I get it now....

We using two different definitions of slippers....

Kasta's slippers defn -

dek's slippers defn -

Mine are like little slip-on boots, with sheepskin inside

They would be good for part of a viking costume... 

I can smell them from here....

quiet you 

I have a pair of slippers that I almost never wear.

I prefer those thick socks with a grip sole on them.

They are not so much of a germ factory 'cos they get to go in the wash.

I cannot stand the flip-flops/thongs that dek has up there. If I want the soles of my feet spanked regularly and constantly  I'll book a room at Abu Ghraib 

hahahahah

You have no toe strenght!!

I have to say, those aren't my fav kind cos of the sound they make....

Oh F***! Yes the sound!! That Bloody sound!!

When I hear it coming from someone else it irritates the heck out of me .

God forbid I should be the one  annoying others with it.  The embarrassment

LOL

I love thongs (slippers by Dek's def'n). They are so Aussie. I have three pairs. The English call them flip-flops after the noise!

Thongs have a different meaning in US english....  But I call them flip flops as well.

Yeah.... imagine my confusion when Sisqo came up with the 'Thong song'..... why would anyone sing about slippers? And why aren't there any in the music video??

There are a few points of confusion with US english.  If you say here that someting was tabled, it was brought up for discussion, but in US english it means that the topic was allowed to wither and die.

hmmmmm my understanding of 'tabled' is the US one as well

I've heard the phrase "it was tabled in parliament" and always interpreted it to mean "discussed" like UK english.   Am I wrong?

Erik: I agree with you, reports and issues are "tabled in parliament" in order to have them discussed or attention brought to them.

I just wear a pair of socks, with some nice warm slippers, no smell, no sweat, added warmth.

It's winter here... without my heater it's around 10 C in the mornings. 

They have these cool house socks, or feet warmers here thatI've bought down in the southern highlands.  They really do the job, and are great to sleep in as well if it's really cold.

Erik: I agree with you, reports and issues are "tabled in parliament" in order to have them discussed or attention brought to them.

My understanding too... 

Thongs are G-strings in the UK...

Thongs are G-strings in the UK...

Or thongs, we call them either one.

 These things:

are sandals, or flip-flops (sandals tend to have straps across the toes and around the heel though, as opposed to just the bit between the toes)

and in UK-speak slippers are soft indoorsy shoes, good for putting on in the time period between getting out of bed and putting socks on (which may include breakfast, washing, etc.) also if its cold, or sometimes between the bath and wherever you put your socks on again

All things that you put on your feet, which aren't called shoes, are slippers!!

Socks?

Well, I was thinking in terms of stuff you're supposed to wear and walk out

Needed slippers this morning, was -2 overnight at my house

Oh yeah, chilly morning here too

Well, I was thinking in terms of stuff you're supposed to wear and walk out

"walk out" ?

You wouldn't go to work with your slippers on, would you? 

That's what I wear to work!!

Yes, but then again, for you thongs/flip flops are slippers.

Boots are not shoes are they slippers too?

Boots are shoes to me....

The world is made of two kinds - shoes and slippers....

Boots are shoes? Like Wellington shoes?

see, in dek's world,

shoes = covered
slipperes = open.

Done!

Now stop hassling me abt my definitons

B..b..b..but slippers are closed!!

OMG!!! I'm so confused!!! All these variations in definitions!!!

Slippers are open!!!

I have close-toed slippers, but they're of the "soft shoe" UK meaning variety, not the flip-flop-like Australian meaning variety

So dek, what would you call these?: 

They're close-toed, but they aren't shoes (and I have similar things but they also close around the heel, so they don't have to be open in any way) 

Those are slippers - they're open

they never existed in my neck of the woods for ages - till recently. Also only used in bedroom so called bedroom/bathroom slippers.

Let me add another term to the whole definition nightmare - CLOGS!!!!! 

= slippers

What about these? They're closed over the toes and around the heel, but they still aren't shoes 

Yes, this is what I think of as slippers.  Mine are sort of like this except they're old and worn out, like their owner.

Slippers are NOT optional in Boston in winter -- but just to wear around the house. 

SK - shoes

slip·per  (slpr)

n.

A low shoe that can be slipped on and off easily and usually worn indoors.

 

(I'm  afraid that this is one of those rare occasions where I'm agin you Dek) 

The term "slipper" was created by Kristina Cairns, and is sometimes used interchangeably with the terms Hawaii the word "slipper" generally refers to the flip-flop.

See, I'm right again

Ahh the duel of references is on.... you've laid the gauntlet down... back after a spell....

hehehehe

I've got the best reference - it's my definition!

From Wiki - The modern slipper has evolved from those first made in Japan during the Meiji period. The Japanese were accustomed to taking off their shoes before rising into their homes (as was not the case for western cultures at the time.) The Meiji period saw many foreigners being brought to Japan from all over the world for various purposes, mainly trade. The Japanese saw it a problem that these foreigners did not know their customs and entered indoors with their shoes on. Thus, they invented slippers for the foreigners to use as a cover over the shoes so as to keep the indoors sanitary.

I win

Hang on from the same referrence:

Clothing

The word is recorded in English in 1478, deriving from the much older verb to slip, the notion being of footwear that is "slipped" onto the foot. Slippers are frequently made out of soft materials such as felt, terrycloth or soft leather, and may or may not be lined. Some slippers, particularly those meant to be used near pools, bathrooms, or other wet places, are made of plastic or rubber. Slippers generally have thin and flexible soles, with a shallow tread meant only to prevent the wearer from slipping on smooth floors. In contrast, shoes and boots are generally made of canvas, plastic, rubber, documentor leather, and often have thick soles. Moccasins are not slippers as in the term slippers for bedwear.

Slippers may be shaped like a shoe (foot inserted through top), or may have no heel, so the foot can be slipped in the back.

Slippers now come in many colourful designs- cartoon charaters, patterns and animals are often featured on this house-hold shoe.

Nicknames

The term "slipper" was created by Kristina Cairns, and is sometimes used interchangeably with the terms flip-flop and sandal. This is especially true where footwear is not customarily worn indoors; in the Philippines, India and Hawaii the word "slipper" generally refers to the sandal or flip-flop. This term can be used, for sandals or flip-flops even though it is not truly "correct" per se.

You  reference is simply not consistent... the duel is still on!

No, you see, mine is the simplest way - doesn't matter what it is made of, just how it looks

People in the Philipines, India, & hawaii would hardly ever need to keep their feet warm.. so it's not really surprising their slippers are open toe'd now is it???

judging by the fact that they came up with slippers, i don't think slippers were meeant to be closed!

Ok I'm back .... I didn't abandon the game but I couldn't be late for supper...

I appreciate your style on the "humpty dumpty' gambit Dek, but I'm not going to play Alice in defense... so I'm off to find CONSISTENT references ('cause I know you're moved to trust this way!) 

Humpty Dumpty gambit?

I'll need a reference for that too thanks

From Lewis Carrol (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland):

“When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.” 

He has a point.... see, Humpty is so much more than he's cracked up to be

I found the rest of the conversation snippit (from one of My Favourite books):

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.

'They've a temper, some of them - particularly verbs: they're the proudest - adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs - however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

'Would you tell me, please,' said Alice, 'what that means?'

'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.'

'Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.

'Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night,' Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, 'for to get their wages, you know.'

(Alice didn't venture to ask what he paid them with; so you see I can't tell you.)

You' can see why I wasn't willing to play the "Alice" side of your gambit... 

heheheeh that gave me a good chuckle....

I've never read the book. I had my fill from the films when I was young

The book is simply amazing.... its much more than just a "children's tale" which is all that comes out in films......It and Through the Looking Glass are  full of satirical allusions to British Sociey and plays with logic in many ways that are more numerous and sophisticated than that found in virtually any other piece of fiction.... I also have Martin Gardner's Annotated Alice in Wonderland  which has extensive passages explaining the hidden allusions as well as the text some Victorian era poems parodied in the two books.

hmmmm.... interesting....

You've inspired me to seek it out and read it

>Dek 

Thus, they invented slippers for the foreigners to use as a cover over the shoes so as to keep the indoors sanitary.

I win

If they are Japanese in origin and designed to cover shoes then they can not be shoes themselves. Can they? Ah-ha!

Though Chamber's, Webster's, MacQuarie, Collin's and others are all wonderful works of reference even the people who work there will tell you the ultimate arbiter of the English language is The Oxford English and their definitions for slipper stand in good stead.

slipper

  • noun 1 a comfortable slip-on shoe that is worn indoors. 2 a light slip-on shoe, especially one used for dancing.

Or:

carpet slipper

  • noun a soft slipper with an upper of wool or thick cloth.

But not what you would call a slipper: a thong or a flip-flop, for which they have:

thong

  • noun 1 a narrow strip of leather or other material, used as a fastening or as the lash of a whip. 2 a skimpy bathing garment or pair of knickers like a G-string. 3chiefly N. Amer. another term for FLIP-FLOP (in sense 1).

Which leads us to:

flip-flop

Why does this keep coming out grey?

Ah. that's it 

But that's exactly the point jr. I don't refer to them like that, which started off the whole 'misunderstanding' in the beginning of the topic.

Any one else can call em what they want, it probably won't mean the same thing to me

But didn't you understand the satirical point that Lewis Carrol was making with Humpty Dumpty?

I thought it meant exactly what I thought it meant

Huh? AND lol 

But what did you think it meant?

that a word means what i choose it to mean - neither more nor less!!

But did you get the satirical point Carrol was trying to make?

That we take/interprete things as we want to? I don't mean that this is done consciously..... most often it isn't. But we can only make meaning according to the background we have

In simple terms: HD is talking rubbish.

But he's not!

Not according to you, no.

No.... didn't I say I agreed with him?

<sigh> thats why I said I wouln't play Alice in defence  .... but all the references I've tracked down for the Etymological basis of slipper have ended at subscription only references... I'll have to sort through my library to see if its included in any of my books and can shed some light.... I will return to spar another day.

heheheheeh

I win! for now

rats! I shall return.

Slipper  comes from the word 'slip'    Tis all. Otherwise I think we have posted all possible definitions. Did Humpty dumpty own any?

I win! for now

Says who?

Sez i!!

btw - using the concept of slip, all footwear would be called slippers....

Not boots. They'd be, mmrrrrrrghhs.

Socks would be pullers

Galoshes or rubber over-shoes would be Ow F*** !My finger!! -s

boots would be the biggest slip-ers ever!

And LOL at galoshes!

Now with all the definitions - I can't say I'm left less confused. But the definition that i tend to use goes back to the bit about the Japanese inventing slippers so that they will be removed easily before entering an area.

In Singapore, indeed the concept of slippers is anything that you can slip on and off easily and is removed to keep certain areas sanitary

OR

used in certain area that are messy or wet (eg.  toilets, wash areas, gardens) and left there so you don't mess up the areas outside.

Slippers can look in anyway but as long as their purpose is as mentioned as above then to us they are slippers.

Based more on application than look - from what i gather the Western defintion is based on the look of the footwear while in the Asian defintion - it's based on application. 

In Dutch, a slipper is an amorous affair which a married person 'slips' into. The Dutch word may also mean a (plastic) slipper used in humid areas (unlike ordinary slippers)... my gosh it gets worse and worse seems possibly to be a word that does mean whatever the user's history/culture/society says it to be... but not ready to concede yet Dek... I take strength from the immortal words of Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809-1894) "Good to the heels the well-worn slipper feels. "

GOOD TO THE HEELS  .... heels heels heels.

slipper

type of footwear, 1478, from slip (v.), the notion being of a shoe that is "slipped" onto the foot.

find it here: slipper

Q.E.D.    (fancy latin for:    I win !) 

A ferocious yet fair battle to the very end.

does that mean that any shoe that "slips on" is a slipper???

what about a gumboot? (wellie)

or clogs?

1. I like the dutch version Is the assumption that you can slip out of it as easily as you slip into it? hehehe
2. The Dutch word may also mean a (plastic) slipper used in humid areas (unlike ordinary slippers) --> that's the whole point Bric, my ordinary = 'rubber slippers'
3. re the etymology - 1478 eh? I wonder what the romans called their slippers

slippero's

LOL

No exact translation, but the Latin for 'slippery' = labilis (i.e.  transient, fleeting, slippery)

Was that a gracious acknowlegement of my victory Dek?

Not at all! Why would you even think that??

It has just occured to me that you have concentrated on English....

It would seem that my definition would encompass more than that (ie different cultures and languages) ie I'm still right.....

It's MY DEFINITION!

Its an English word! 

Yes, Slippers is an english word, but my definition of it obviously isn't

and for our next topic:

How to Nail Jell-O to a Wall

details of this project can be found here

It would seem somewhat easier than pinning down the Dek. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAH Your last comment got me

Is that really Jello? Looks like instant noodles to some extent

The technique illustrated was to enhance the Jello by embedding "reinforcing materials"  (in this case noodles) but the jello does mostly stick ....

Here's the trial with no reinforcing materials:

Complete success can come by simply adding more gelatin powder to the mix:

Well, yeah, that makes sense....

Whatever happened to just eating the stuff?!

But according to the author of the study, this left the product with a less than desirable taste....

So, if you want to play, then eat the stuff, the Ramen noodles are the way to go, 

hmmm... yeah, I think I'd rather eat jelly than instant noodles....

Maybe I could experiment with how well noodles stick when you throw em up at various objects.... *mulling*

If you want to throw something that sticks to objects you should perhaps try different variants of Peanut Butter (then you'll not be feeling the loss of something you could be eating)

That's why I don't like peanut butter - how it sticks to the roof of your mouth. YUK.

I though Dek was the only anti PB activist here.... sigh a gift of the gods and you turn up your noses because of a slight inconvenience

PB is great.  Couldn't live without it.

bleh at peanut butter


Here's something the kids at school used to do - wet a handful of toilet paper/tissues and throw em up on the ceiling.... they stay there forever!

I guess unlike slippers that is a universal!

“There's nothing better than good sex. But bad sex? A peanut butter and jelly sandwich is better than bad sex.” Billy Joel quotes

hahahaha I don't think so

I would rather eat a PB&J sandwich then sleep with Billy Joel too.

ROFL

Excellent point.... I second that

who would have thought that the road to liking peanut butter could start with escaping from being the Uptown Girl ....... I guess this is progress of a sorts

lol

I never said i'd like it.... I'd just rather eat pb than ..... ugh, I can't even say it

lol

*randomly wandering in to the discussion* 

Jelly is jam surely ?

*musing*.......

can't nail jam to the wall unless you freeze it.

Jello-o is jelly surely ? Why would you put it in your slippers? 

Hmmmmmm........Can you nail slippers to the wall, if the wall is made of Jell-o? 

The Japanese (or dek's Asian) definition of slipper (shoes worn indoors as opposed to out-door wear) is exactly the same as the British definition. And not something you'd slip on and then (again, according to dek) and go out in. If that were the case if I slipped on my jacket to go out, would that be a slipper?

and you the slippee

Yes. In my jacket.

dekrazee1: "He has a point.... see, Humpty is so much more than he's cracked up to be"

Is it just me or did a bunch of people miss the pun? 

hehehehe A bunch of ppl missed it

Heya Kamisamanou!

Long time no see!

sorry ... but I guess the groan that shook the walls of my house when I read it the first time somehow didn't manage to actually reflect off the keyboard and make its way to here.... so just so you know.... GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroan

Yeah, it's good to be back. 

LOL @ Bric


See Kamisamanou, we've been busy while you've been away..... I've put forth - and defended - my definition of slippers

What? 

But she lost the argument with herself

Bric, do I need to refer you to the image a few posts above??

That's the argument I meant you lost!

Yes, I read the entire thing. :| 

HAHAHAHA

Based on the evidence provided and being totally ...unbiased.......I hereby declare dekrazee1 the winner 

WronG... but its past my bedtime (3:09 am) so I'll be back to duel another day

Oh well, now that I have passed my verdict, it is time for me to go to bed [5:13am] 

Good morning!

WOOO HOOOO

I winz!

And a very good morning to both of you

WOW. Its been a while since i've been here and that whole thing took me an hour to read!

heheheh

Welcome back Morgan!

Got any other words we can fight over?

duel dekrazee1.  duel not fight.

(notice no slippers allowed) 

hmmmm I can't see that pic....

And no slippers? No worries.... I prefer going barefeet anyways

Dekrazee1.... you avytar thingy has changed.... this one looks armed to the teeth....  but with you confession that you're going barefoot rather than slippered we can probably ratchet down the rhetoric... can't you find a sweet avuthar?

hmmmm.... now I can see the pic... and I've always wanted to play that!!!

No way, this avatar is sticking for now.... it's OPTIMUS PRIME!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe

I watched Transformers (the movie) over the weekend, and am now completely obsessed with the Transformers. Everytime I get into my car, I say "Autobots: Roll out!' before I drive off

There's a free mental health clinic down the street

hrrrrmph!

Autobots: Attack!

Puny Autobots. I can't even tell there attacking me

Are you Megatron in disguise?

Nope. Just a slipper wearin' dude sittin in front of his Acer

Wait.... which type of slipper??

The fuzzy closed type

Ah yes.... shoes...


(ok ok, I'll shaddup now)

This is like what I have

See, I agree with you

oh yesh....

FINALLY! Someone who agrees!

Woo hoo!
hehehe

 How is that agreeing with you?

They are indeed slippers (pic above) 

BUT The debate is whether flip-flops/thongs are slippers as you so erroneously claim. WHICH!THEY!ARE!NOT! 

Are you seriously saying 'filp-flops' or 'thongs' aren't slippers???? I think the rest of Asia might beg to differ

plus - How is that agreeing with you?

He actually said - See, I agree with you

Yes I am saying that. I always have been. Not slippers in any Anglo-traditional sense. 

Just because he says it doesn't mean he knows what he is agreeing with. He is not agreeing that thongs are slippers is he? And posting a pic of some slippers is not posting some thongs so you can't claim that you are being agreed with. Can you?

Can you speak for the rest of Asia?  Is Tangler in Aisa.

Ah-Ha! Ah-Ha! Now I have you....

Those are slippers!!!!!

This is where we came in........

NO!THEY!ARE!NOT! 

They are they are they are!

Nope!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippers

No more valid a reference now than the last time Dek.... (did you think I'd gone away just cause of a short outage...no way, Jose!)

Goodness..... never have I wanted a topic to die more

But you keep stirring the pot.

I don't..... You guys just won't accept the facts!

Dek,

referring to wiki isn't valid because  you probably wrote the entry you keep linking to (for all we know).

If you want this topic to die, all you have to do is "take the red pill." 

Hey!! I'm on Tangler from Asia. And I agree with Dek on slippers!!!

>aman

so now two people are wrong

well - actually 3.....

Kamisamanou did declare dek a winner - so on our side too....hehehe 

the numbers are growing!

But he did not. He posted a pic of some actual slippers, not thongs/flip-flops.

He then agreed with dek, evidently not knowing what he was agreeing with, that dek is a slipper devient.

so we're down to two again?

no worries - i'll round up support....

*off to Asian tour* 

note to self: never use the word pants

or jelly 

Except when buying pants one assumes.

Or jelly.

Or ordering in a restaurant. 

But if the person I'm speaking to is American then they'll think I mean trousers and jam

Don't know about Asutralians.. dek, what do you guys use "pants" and "jelly" to describe?

I dunno.... pants are pants and jelly is jelly....

are there any other types?

And john robie - I ain't gonna back down from insisting that rubber footwear are slippers.... because they are!!!!!!!

It is equivalent to saying to an American (from what SK has said above) that they're wrong to call 'jam' jelly..... One signified can have more than one signifier. Therefore, I am right!

Plus, I never have put an entry into Wikipedia.... Wouldn't know how to!

So i'm an aussie and jelly is the jiggly stuff (jello? in america i think) and jam is what you put on toast or scones.
And pants? is there another type??? pants are pants...

oh dek, you beat me to it!!

hhahahah

Pants are not jeans though! And I use the word to describe outer wear as well as underwear.

When I say pants I think ironed trouser style...

Same....

oh dear... if you replace "slippers" with "pants" then we're having exactly the same conversation

And surely the last word is Erik's !

hahaha

Now which one was he referring to?

I went out to the shop. One of those shops that sell thongs/flip-flops (and apparently little else) and asked for a pair of "slippers", I came away with.....NOTHING. Dek, please explain? 

The shop keeper needs an education

I will tell him you said that. You seem to think he doesn't exist or that it didn't happen.

ME: HiYa C I haven't much time to stop, I'd like to buy a pair of slippers please.

C: What?

Me: I'd like to buy a pair of slippers, humour me I'm trying something out here.

C: What!?

Me: Just sell me a pair of slippers will ya? 

C: *chuckle* *quizzical look* Erm, OK. We. Don't. Sell. Slippers?  Is this another one of your stupid jokes?

Me: Yes and no. So you definitely don't sell slippers?

C: Definite.

Me: OK, for the record, could you tell me a little about your background, like where your parents come from. 

C: Huh? *funy look*

Me: your mum and dad, where did they come from, like.......?

C: Oh my dad came from Hong Kong and my mother from  Sydney, but her mum came from Macao.

Me: So an Asian heritage then.

C: Yeah. 

Me: But no slippers?

*customer enters* 

C: Hang on let me serve this....

Me: I'll see ya later, will explain all. 

Where did he grow up?

I ask cos he would have inherited the language used there

Like how I say 'no worries' to everything now, instead of 'It's ok' which I used to say

I still speak British- English No matter how much time I spend in Oz. (Causes confusion sometimes)

Even so my friend, would have known what slippers were from growing up in his own childhood home.No matter where he grew up.

(The lengths I go to for science)

BTW I believe he Grew up in Oz

There you go.....

And it doesn't matter how much you deny it, slippers = slippers!!

LOL

Of course slippers are slippers! But what are slippers in the 1st place.

My friend grew up in an Asian household, where your definition would have been prevelant, so he would have known what I was on abt. 

No - he's an Asian in an Aussie culture and most probably would have adapted the culture accordingly. Cause it's not like shops in Australia would have been selling the variety of slippers in shops the way that they do here.

I grew up in Asia so my definition of slippers would have resulted from there. When i was staying in Sydney - I did not buy slippers simply cause i didn't find them as easily in shops there. So i did not use slippers the way that i use here. That of course changed when my mum bought a whole bunch of pairs of slippers from Singapore into Sydney that our household in Sydney was overwhelmed with slippers for the various areas. One pair for the Garage, a couple for the Garden, few others for going out, rest for the house - oh and not to forget the bathroom!!!

Hence John Robbie - your "scientific experiement" was not really empirical as your sample set only reflects one condition - mostly geared towards your thesis. Seems to be convenience sampling to me.

The pants thing, in the UK pants = underwear only, we do also call them underpants occasionally but mainly pants

What americans call pants, we call trousers

And jam is for spreading on toast whereas jelly is the wobbly dessert, which I think America calls gelatin

We have both Jelly and Jam in the USA.  Jam is more like 'preserves' and is a bit lumpy and often has pieces of fruit (or fruit-like substances) in it, where Jelly is more gelatineous-sugary stuff that probably has no nutritional value, sort of like congealed Ribena.

The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday - but never jam today (but I think Jelly should be substitued in the quotation and Jam the only one actually consumed)

Ribena ... there's a horror I'd almost forgotten.

More like "Bursting with Sugar"

In oz, Jam with big pieces of Fruit in it is called "Conserve"..

IXL is owned by the Smucker's corp. in the USA.  I avoid both of them as they're most sugar or high-frutcose corn syrup.

Oh look!

So many multiple definitions!

The original Lucozade, now called Lucozade Energy, is an 'energy drink' - I think was mostly glucose syrup -- it was my Grandmother's solution to the common cold and was kept for 'medicinal' purposes on our family's grocery shelf... now its peddled in the 'sports drink market against Gatorade... If it didn't cure the cold the impact of injecting near pure sugar into the blood stream of children certainly had the effect of making the kid more rambunctious... (strike one symptom  as eliminated !)

Dek....Why not make a word do more than one job ?

I just remembered I went to a Lucozade phase when I was younger.... it was my drink of choice

Nothing wrong with making one word work hard..... just don't hassle me when I reveal its 2nd job!

Lucozade is a common sight in our house - to stop diabetic hypos - a time when a gob full of sugar is actually beneficial.

@Bric

The idea that sugar makes kids hyper or 'rambunctious' is a just a popular myth that everyone accepts to be true because we all know that sugar = energy. But if this were true they should be that active after every meal. Having as they do, a higher metabolism than adults, thus converting all their relevant food intake into useable sugars quickly.

Research has shown that kids are not generally more active after a sugar hit.

The most common example that people cite of kids being hyperactive in association with consumption of large ammounts of the stuff is at birthday parties. But it has been shown that kids on a low sugar party diet are just as active. It's the party that makes them more active not the sugar. Just as adults can attend a party and not have to drink to relax or  have their inhibitions loosened. Rather they are relaxed by the general atmosphere.

Another popular myth is that slippers can be anything other than actual slippers. 

I agree abt the suger hit thing.... I hit peak madness at regular intervals without needing sugar.... just ask Erik

Exactly.... slippers are slippers!

I'll bow to your greater knowledge in the impact of sugar... I don't know as much as I should in that area I'm sure (as is the case with most NA males)...

But I do know that arguments with Humpty Dumpty can be time consuming 

I am officially signing out of this conversation.....men and slippers....GAH!!!

hhahaha

and bric - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

"...most NA males"  ?

NA =? 

@Morgan

Get back in here! Now! 

NA = not active?

Not armed?

lol NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

LOL

@ Morgan

Oh Yes!

No one is leaving until the debate is settled. Or I start shooting. 

or I start throwing eggs at jr.... in which case, feel free to join in Morgan!

Scrambled eggs...Mmmmmmm..... 

Good! We might be in here some time! 

Hang on I'll just light the cooker and get a frying pan and some butter. Would you mind also if I make some toast?

Go right ahead.... throwing jam around should only add to the fun!

^^lol

Now is that jelly jam? conserve jam? or jam jam? The toast was for the eggs, but you can have jam if you brought some because i am not releasing anymore hostages to get some for you.

I don't care which jam, I dislike em all, so they all qualify for throwing

FOOD FIGHT!!!!!!

You really are too much into this food fight thing, aren't you. (qv "I believed.....")

Food fight!!!!!!

(it's the time of the day when I get restless and a but nuttier than usual)

BANANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NA = non active north american

gee I guess it's even possible for an abbreviation to work hard ... perhaps I should take the role of HD for a bit.  

re: but nuttier  .... should that be a nut buttier

HD=?

Dekrazee1 secretly likes Peanut Butter.

HD= Humpty Dumpty 

@ Dek,

would that be the sugar in the caffy?

had a coffee earlier, abt 3 hrs ago, and without sucre so can't be that.....

It's the insanity that strikes when I stare at the screen for too long....

What's a nut buttier??

buttier = new word I just coined for someone who makes their own butter... hence nut buttier = one who makes butter using nuts. (Humpty Dumpty gets to do this- coin words - too you know).

Interesting.... how did you know I made butter?

I've only done it once... too much work  (at least it is when done totally by hand) do you have a churn?

Yeah, a wooden one

The Shadow Knows

Homemade butter...... *drool*

nothing tastier

Not a deed would he do,

Not a word would he utter,

Till he's weighed its relation

To plain bread and butter.
 

James Russell Lowell, American poet
(1819-1891

He got that right!!

then there is the close second:

hahahaha That's sad....

Getting back on topic........ 

'I claim you, old friend,' yawned the arm-chair,
'This corner, you know, is your seat;'
'Best your slippers on me,' beamed the fender,
'I brighten at touch of your feet.'

The Dead House.James Russell Lowell  

Speaking of butter -
I recently saw an ad for spreadable butter right out of the fridge, and I decided to try it after carefully reading the ingredients.....

Guess what? IT DOESN'T SPREAD!

http://www.brandpower.com/AUS/5spotlight.asp?id=374

I've been cheated!!

Depends on how cold your fridge is. In Oz I have to keep the fridge theromostats at something close to absolute zero.

Spreadable butter with its injection system at the ready

What is that????

Looks like a tongue to me

john - I bought it, brought it home and tried it straight away.... wouldn't have been that cold

That ad is an outright lie!!

So it wasn't in your fridge then? Maybe that 's how it works?

That is bread BTW

That's bread?? man, looks bloody....

Nah, it doesn't work.... it's like regular butter - unspreadable

It looks toasted. (Check the colour settings on your monitor?)

grrrrrrr

That is crab in my picture -- the best vehicle for butter that spreads itself.

I checked the ad on the Spreadable butter... I stopped when it said butter has two parts ... the hard part and the soft  part and the product is made with more of the soft part???

That seemed a stretch to me.... but here's what I found:

Butter contains fat in three separate forms: free butterfat, butterfat crystals, and undamaged fat globules. In the finished product, different proportions of these forms result in different consistencies within the butter; butters with many crystals are harder than butters dominated by free fats.  !!!

Several spreadable butters have been developed; these remain softer at colder temperatures and are therefore easier to use directly out of refrigeration. Some modify the makeup of the butter's fat through chemical manipulation of the finished product, some through manipulation of the cattle's feed, and some by incorporating vegetable oils

Thank-you Wikipedia. 

Normal butter softens to a spreadable consistency around 15 °C (60 °F), well above refrigerator  temperatures

Phew! I knew I wasn't completely losing it!!

In which case, this product doesn't work right?

I don't see how it can.... I can't see it making enough of a difference unless you have one of the old New Zealand Fridges with the built in heater in the butter compartment that keeps the temperature warmer than the rest of the fridge.

hmmm yeah....

And I've tried leaving it out, but I use so little of it, it always goes bad - even in winter

I've never seen them myself but the Wikipedia article talked about:

"French butter dishes" or "Acadian butter dishes" involve a lid with a long interior lip, which sits in a container holding a small amount of water. Usually the dish holds just enough water to submerge the interior lip when the dish is closed. Butter is packed into the lid. The water acts as a seal to keep the butter fresh, and also keeps the butter from overheating in hot temperatures. This allows butter to be safely stored on the countertop for several days without spoilage.

Message for you over at the Bric's Tangle Dekrazee1... and I'm heading off to dream land...

Yeah, except I take longer than several days.... oh never mind.... dek's butter experiments shall continue

(there's a message to your message)

Goodnight!

Right but I already answered that....

as have I....

hehehe this is amusing