It's that time of year and the usual "Why doesn't Queensland conform" chants have started.

As a staunch QLD'er, this was my offering ...

Daylight Saving

Arguments for its inception ...

1. You can have BBQ's and drink beer down at the beach every afternoon.

Arguments for the status quo...

1. Daylight saving fades the curtains.
2. During daylight saving, when the Dalby dairy farmer has finished milking the cows (who turned up an hour late), everyone else is having a BBQ and drinking beer down at the beach. By the time the dairy farmer arrives the beer is gone and the snags are cold.
3. Queenslanders are not afraid of the dark and XXXX is an all hours, all weather all purpose beverage that can be readily consumed in all conditions without the assistance of daylight, BBQ's or beaches.
4. Innisfail bananas would have to spend an extra night in the packing shed because the transport workers who ordinarily bring them to town would all be having a BBQ and drinking beer down at the beach.
5. Men would experience the morning glory on the train.
6. The kids wouldn't go to bed. They'd rather be having BBQ's and drinking beer down at the beach.
7. During daylight saving, laundry hung out in the evening would not be dry and ready to iron by a quarter to 6 the following morning. As a result, an increase in the use of laundry dryers would become evident. In most cases, the laundry would not be hung out to dry at all because everyone would be too tired, drunk and sunburnt from spending the evening BBQ'ing and drinking beer down at the beach.
8. Solar hot water systems would not receive the necessary heat in the mornings to ensure everyone gets that necessary warm shower after the previous night BBQ'ing and drinking beer down at the beach. The assistance of the backup electrical booster for the duration of one hour every morning would be required to make up for the lost daylight.
9. It follows from most of the above that the extra hour of daylight itself coupled with the dependence on electrical appliances would be to the detriment of the environment through an increase in global warming not to mention the litter left over from the masses of BBQ's and beer drinking down at the beach.
10. The extra hour of daylight would increase the rate of obesity, alcoholism and skin cancer from excessive BBQ's and beer drinking down at the beach.

Daylight savings just means I'm more tired.

LOL. That's 11

So what happens to all this daylight that gets saved?

does it get shared out to all the needy people...or does the government hoard it, so that when they retire, they can live in perpetual daylight?

or maybe they sell it off to the highest bidder...

The government gets it.  And they don't hoard it, they do what governments always do, they waste it...

I just don't understand it. They should just leave it be. There's less day in winter and more in summer. Deal with it.

yeah - but you'd sleep half the day away in the morning.

LOL! Great list Ruski!

Simon, how do you figure that?

It does kinda suck when you are having trouble sleeping, look out the window, and dawn is breaking. That's just depressing, and it's all thanks to daylight saving

Please forgive if i'm being daft - but as the days get longer if you left the clock as is the sun comes up earlier - they shift the time forward one hour so you don't waste daylight sleeping and have more at the end of the day. At least that's how i saw it . . . . . . .

yeah - but you'd sleep half the day away in the morning.

 
I don't see a problem there....

Simon - ah... Sorry.

I was thinking of the longer days. I doesn't matter what time the day ends and begins, they're longer anyway!

What we need is daylight savings in winter...

I am constantly telling people this. I reckon someone mixed up the dates sometime... We should add an hour in winter - and take an hour in summer

However, after considerable thought, it wouldn't really work because no matter how many extra hours we whack into the day, the sun is only going to stay up for 8 hours in winter, and 10 in summer

wait... 12 in summer.... maybe more

True, but with daylight savings, at least the day would end at 5 instead of 4

Exactly

I think we should trial daylight saving three days a week and revert to standard time for the other four.

We can always rely on Ruskie to come up with a workable solution.

I'm thinking Monday Wednesday and Saturday.

8 hours in winter, and 10 in summer

The amount of variation depends on where in the world you are (equators = very little seasonal change, poles = 6 months of daytime in summer, 6 month night for winter) but it'll be an equal split either side of 12 hours. So 8 hours (12 - 4) daylight in winter would mean 16 hours (12 + 4) in summer... I think.

arizona doesn't "do" daylight savings either.......except for the navajo nation....they do..

oh and if it weren't for daylight savings........there would be several riddles that wouldn't get solved.

hahahaha

Good reason on the pro side!

The only reason on the pro side?

There's this too, remember?

1. You can have BBQ's and drink beer down at the beach every afternoon

ok miss pedantic.. the only other reason

Ok, this will make you feel better: http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8080/droughtxc8.gif

please tell me that was written on april 1st.

I'm not sure, but I don't think so

i was thinking about the ol chestnut of the curtains fading - that would actually be true if you didn't have daylight saving - as the sun is up earlier in the morning you wouldn't wake up and open them until they had had a good dose of sunlight.

Oooh... good point...

You know, I never got that since I don't actually drow the curtains... or look behind them

you don't close them or you don't open them?

Ummm... both? I don't bother with them

Then why are they even there?

ummm... I dunno...

Oh wait! I think cos they're red

HAHAHA!!! such a random answer!!

But... but I like red!

sure....i get it.....they are decorative..

Its the whole reason they paint ceilings....I think....

*scratching head*

So ceilings shouldn't be painted?

Well the only reason they get painted is for decoration, right?

Right... yes, I see what you mean...

I guess it was inevitable once people started painting walls...

They also get painted to seal the surface and stop crumbling and so on.  Helps keep the bits out of your sandwich lying on the desk or dust in your hair...

I'm pretty sure they didn't paint the ceiling in India... it was just concrete.

No bits in the snadwich there.

Then again, don't recall eating a sandwich there either

HAHAHAH!!!

I don't use my curtains either... just leave 'em closed. Unfortunately there are certain people around who will open them in my absence (god knows why) meaning I have to close them all over again.

I actually have blinds now, but all of the above are still true.

The blinds in my living room I do mess with. Open in the day, close at night in winter, and close in the day and open at night at the height of summer. Call it manual climate control

I leave my blinds 1/4 open.... just enough light/cool/warm at all times to keep me happy

Just enough to let the lens peep through so's you can get photo's of your neighbours...

I caught one of my neighbours masturbating the other day

I'm seriously considering not spying on them anymore... not that I'm the spying type, I just happened to look in that direction at the wrong time.. HONESTLY!!!

mm hmmm, we believe ya

Eugh.. you've just brought a forgotten memory back for me...

I was in the bus, along Elizabeth street, and was looking at the world go by. The bus stopped at a red light, a car pulled up next to me, and the driver was having a go. He even had a pornographic magazine to look at on the passenger seat!

And that street has a lot of traffic lights...

omg!

dek, the same exact thing happened to me.....in nyc.

hilarious......and we worry about people driving while talking on their cell phones....

a car pulled up next to me, and the driver was having a go

and we worry about people driving while talking on their cell phones 

Still, tough decision on which is the bigger wanker.

Not that tough...

it depends on how literally you are using the phrase bigger wanker.

People who drive 4WDs in the city - fits that term perfectly

I generally don't engage the front axle when in the city nor the rear diff locker. This makes it a one wheel drive. Three wheels short of a wanker.

Granted ... carrying the spare tyre on the bonnet is ... aside from being practical in terms if space saving, accessibility etc ... probably a bit wankey. That I'm prepared to wear.

But how many times have you taken it off-road?

(would be common in your line of work, yes?)

Whenever possible during the 18 months I've had it. In its 36 year life I know it has crossed the nullabor at least once. Not off road but been around for sure. I rarely have to leave the office anymore ... have done my tours of duty ... but yes otherwise very common.

Maybe the more pertinent question would be - how many times has it taken Ruski off-road?

It has taken a Commodore ute and its onboard fuckwit off the road.

Ah yes... I remember that

Eh?

Do tell 

*sits down eagerly in front of Ruski the great Storyteller*

LOL!

I'll light the fire. Anyone got marshmallows?

...or you could read it here: http://tangler.com:80/forum/cars/topic/20853 look for 10th May post

HAHAHA!!!

Idiot....

I see people doing this on suburban streets all the time.

LOL!

It's so funny that you've responded here...

well, I'm not going to reply to a post over there from almost 6 months ago....

jeez! it's called continuity, woman!!

hahahaha ok ok!

*hides*

it's no good...i can still see you...

It's okay... I don't think  Morgan's mad anymore

The mile and a half that the Avenger does on a weekday will soon be reduced to zero when we move.

@dek - I dont think I was mad in the first place!! unless you're talking about my mental state

@ruski - why out of action?

yeah?

New place is 300m from the local train station.

ahh....so you won't be taking her out for fun?

I don't see why he would with (albeit wanning) gas prices...

Ruski, if you want some extra excercise, you could always push it to and from the train station each day 

Bluegirl ... this may be a chance to put her up on blocks and pay her the attention from underneath that she has been demanding for some time now.

Morgan .. that has happened. There is a saying that goes something like "I'd rather push my Land Rover than drive a Jeep".

That said ... old Jeeps are a reasonable alternative.