As in, why isn't there one?
It would be a place people could get together to discuss civic responsibility and morality without bringing in stories about some burning bush or plague of locusts.
Seems like it would be productive. It's our obligation to promote civic responsibility and morality regardless of religion.
Well, to answer in my opinion why there isn't one currently. Because it probably wouldn't beget a lot of members. The reason many people put their faith in religion is because it has answers, whether they are correct or not doesn't matter. It's got them, and many people take them as true because it's comforting.
The "religion" you describing is exactly the situation that these people flock to religion to escape from. The world is frightening, confusing and altogether unpleasant. Without a preset moral structure like those provided by religions you have to figure that out on your own, or in this case, in a group, which isn't what these people want.
I realizing I'm making out followers of religions to be these people looking for the easy way out, and that's not completely true. There are tons of different reasons why people chose to believe in a religion. I'm just trying to point out the difference between a religion and this "Godless Church or Morality", and possible reasons it isn't around.
I think instead of coming up with another set of non-religion based rules (we have law for that to an extent) we need to equip the young with the skills needed to make the right/best decisions. There's no point knowing the rules if you can't apply em
It would be a place people could get together to discuss civic responsibility and morality
There was no law against this the last time I looked!!
If you cant find a group in your area then start one.
Have thought about it, andromeda - but I guess I'm just not religious enough about my desires.
lol
Confucianism and Taoism in the East have provided a system of morality and ethics without the need for gods or supernatual beings for thousands of years. Surely if the Chinese can do it, Western countries can as well?
The church of Jedi !!!
..hey it worked for hubbard....
And there lies the biggest mystery of it all....
Hubbard, being a known fiction writer, still manages to start a 'religion', hook followers, and expand his 'church'
All this in the time of more information and (presumably knowledge ) than ever before
If you believe in Scientology, you will believe in anything.
I'd replace Scientology with Religion....
After all, it's the same thing isn't it?
Sorry to disappoint you, but it's not.
Scientology recruitment is cleverly designed to sucker people in with brainwashing/mind control tactics. The same probably goes for most cults of the "freaky cult" variety (as opposed to the "not big enough to be called a religion" variety) Religions tend not to go in for brainwashing ![]()
Religions don't go in for brainwashing? Perhaps not intentionally, but they utilize the same tactics and patterns. Repetition of 'facts', approved lines of 'logic' that lead to the desired conclusions, ostracism of non-believers, restrictions on opposing school-of-thought media.....
True, but there are more insidious means of getting into someone's head than that
It's all the same....
It's all designed to suck you in and stop you from thinking for yourself.
Here is a little video on the subject of brainwashing, not that this video is impartial by any means, but there are SOME religions with rather agressive techniques for spreading their beliefs.
See.... they suck them in when they're so young....
terrible
'Can I look in the bible and find the word computer' - asked while showing slides on a projector and holding a mic
*rolling eyes*
cringe....
"God said it so I believe it, that settles it"
*big big cringe*
nan-na nan-na nan-na nan-na LEADER!!!
there is always math...
HAHAHAHAHA
I like that one!
Buddhism.
You'd have to be very specific with which strand of Buddhism that is....
Even then I'm not convinced that it is a good example. The basis for morality is still set on a set of 'supernatural' beliefs...
I think you would be better off saying Confucianism rather than Buddhism... as far as I know it was originally based in doing what is right because it is right minus the gods wrath and approval.
So who decides what is right and moral???
The majority
yup, good old infallible majority
The Chinese???
Democratic morality, (or lack of it) is what we have now.
The tyrrany of the majority.
yesh
Democracy bites, everyone should shut up and listen to Super-King
Majoritarianism per se?? ![]()
whuh?![]()
are you questioning that democracy is rule by majority?
I guess not that many people vote... and its representative rather than direct decision-making by the majority (that would be pure democracy) but the ruling is still done by the majority, by proxy
Democracy is ruled by the few people who market themselves well
Democracy is simulataneously a few people controlling the fate of the many, and many people controlling the fate of the few
But the few get to do so all the time, whilst the many only get a say in the matter for one day every 4 or 5 years
Yeah, so it's Majoritarianism .
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