Thought I would go ahead and start the thread, since some people can't find the preview for episode 3X11.  (Hope you don't mind, Mony!)

3X11--"Fresh Blood"

Plot Synopsis: Bill tries to earn back Sookie’s trust, but ends up bringing her face-to-face with fresh dangers. Knowing he’s no physical match for the King, Eric tempts Russell with the “ultimate vampire dream.” Jason tries to wrap his head around Crystal’s revelation. Sam embraces his dark side, alienating everyone except Tara. Hoyt and Jessica take their romance to the next level; with Holly’s help, Arlene puts her future in the hands of a goddess; post V-trip, Lafayette struggles with new demons.

What is this deal with Jason and the football player? Do you think that he might be a were or some other supe? It is weird how he keeps showing up.

Looks like Eric to me.  WTF?

Oh the sweet sound of Sookie screaming - again. Yup, bad, bad Eric. I hate AB. I smell a rat sums him up.

)) good thing they don't film inside her mouth when she screams like that, I could effing see her insides if they were LOL

I'm so pissed at AB right now I could drain him dry. I really don't know what kind of contract CH has with AB but I'm sure it was a soul selling one, 1000 pages long with #6 font cause this shit of a series is strongly getting on my nerves and I can't believe it's not getting on hers since she created the universe that AB pisses all over. if I'm wrong sue me but I don't think I am.

At the very end it sounds like Pam saying "Don't do it what if it doesn't work".

did you notice that Eric's body is smoking in the last few seconds?

Lol! sorry that just struck me as funny (but then I always think Eric's body is smokin' 

I can't wait for Eric to fight Bill, that looked "smokin"! 

I wonder if Eric will buy Sookie a new car now...

Even with the promise of walking in daylight, I wonder how Eric would possibly gain Russell's trust considering that Eric staked Talbot.

Yes, I would also like to see a Bill-Eric fight. Eric has tolerated a lot from Bill. I think he should remind Bill of his place in the food-chain.

Yesss food chain! Bill really needs to get hit or thrown out a la Jason (what a great scene...) more!

So I think I've worked out the editing to know the actual order of things. Eric biting her when she is screaming is happening first (as in this night) without RE there. Bill comes gets tied up. Eric feeds Sookie, or lets Bill do it after making him tell her the truth. Eric tells them they are going to go along with his plan, they reluctently agree. Eric earns RE trust (don't know how) by telling him about his family. RE and Eric catch the released Sookie and Bill, as per the plan. Eric and Bill fight, all part of the show plus it's been a long time coming. Then RE and Eric are shown feeding on her a little (the pic where she is not screaming). Eric fight RE in the sun. Yadda Yadda from there.

I didn't like Eric putting her in the dungeon, but I do think he did it to protect her, since he figured Bill wouldn't be able to. I also think that he figured Sookie wouldn't cooperate. It wasn't the most suave move, but it would probably be the most effective. I think the fight with Bill in Bon Temp is for real. Eric needs to capture Bill to force him to tell Sookie the truth.

I agree AP. And I hope that the fight with Bill is for real too. He is a dog and someone has to be able to prove it to Sookie, somehow.

I would however, love to be thrown over AS shoulder and taken anywhere. LOL

I would however, love to be thrown over AS shoulder and taken anywhere. LOL

LOL me too! Even if it's the damp dungeon

What i still don't get is how fighting Bill will make him confess the truth to Sookie and her to believe it too. Bill could always later claim that Eric forced with raw violence him to tell Sookie about SA and claim it isn't true.

I wonder if Eric will buy Sookie a new car now...

Heh.  I was wondering the same thing.  Of course, that means that we won't get AE being "put" into that craptastic car of Sookie's and later commenting on how shitty it is.  I hope he doesn't get her a new vehicle just yet.

Eric looks like he is enjoying himself in the fight with Bill, that's why I think it's real. Bill's been a pain in the ass and not behaving the way he should to his sheriff, including that insensitive sucker punch last year. And Bill hasn't a clue how inadequate he is compared with Eric.

Who wouldn't enjoy themselves whipping Bill's ass?  He deserves it!

Oh come on now - you know AB won't allow Bill to appear weak. I hope he does but I have my doubts. I hope Eric gets in a few good licks

Yep Gee good point. This show is clearly being written from a Bill's Babe view point. So I'm sure any Eric / Bill fight scenes will reflect that accrodingly. I hate to be so negative but it just appears to be the reality of the situation. It's so messed up.

Bill looked rather mealy-mouthed in Ep 10. I think they will let him look weak. He is crusin' for a bruisin'

And if they don't come through and Stoopie and Bill stay together, then we won't have AE having hot sex with Stoopie. Because she probably won't even keep her at her home. Maybe he'll just stumple around blankly while Pam takes care of him. I will then end my viewership.

Well they keep ragging on the age thing, so Eric has the Saint of Mainstreaming beat there. And the size and the speed.  Even Bill's Babe has to admit that.  I think Eric will enjoy Bill's futile attempts to hurt him. LOL

Oh and yeah, if they make AE a separate entity from Sookie in season 4 so that she and Bill or Alcide or whoever else she decides to screw besides the Viking-- well I want to say I will quit watching but I just don't know if I could. 

In my gloomy mindeset I imagine the AE storyline to be as far away from the books as AB can get. It's probably his least favorite book. I can only imagine what he'll do with it.  *worries*

What are the thoughts on what Bill is hiding from Sookie?

i don't think it's getting any more original here... he's hiding his mission to procure Sookie for SA. After all, that was also what Eric refered to before Sookie busted the two of them in the woods and what hasn't been revealed to Sookie yet. Since AB loves BEULL so very much, i don't think he'll have Bill murder her parents.

I wonder if the amnesia storyline will run the course of the entire 4th season or if it will be a minor plot point that is solved in under 3 episodes.  My guess is minor plot point.

Yep I agree Kim Amnesia will me a minor plot point. I can't see AB giving it much weight. The TV show is the complete opposite of the books.

So Eric drinks her blood to walk in the day in order to kill Russell. Or try to at least.

My guess is minor plot point.

And yet Sam's dull story line and Tara's too has choked the whole third season.  

They've got this really talented actor and he's also smoking hot. It will be to their own stupidity if they don't use him to full advantage.

They've got this really talented actor and he's also smoking hot. It will be to their own stupidity if they don't use him to full advantage.

The insanity that is AB and True Blood. Of course if they use AS more that will detract from the true object of AB's affection, Beehl. Ugh. I'd love to know what CH really thinks about the total f*ck-up he has made of her characters.

Oh and yeah, if they make AE a separate entity from Sookie in season 4 so that she and Bill or Alcide or whoever else she decides to screw besides the Viking-- well I want to say I will quit watching but I just don't know if I could.
I'm not sure I could quit watching either, but if this season ends badly again I may let my husband cancel HBO (he's been wanting to forever) and then I'll just be forced to quit. AE at Pam's house would be too cruel! Tho, I do wonder what her pad is like. haha

At the very end it sounds like Pam saying "Don't do it what if it doesn't work".  
She must be worried about Eric then, 'cause she doesn't care much for TB Sookie. Not buddies at all. Pam seems almost jealous.

Since there is no Andre as of yet, I was wondering if Russell will try to force his blood on Sookie, he loves to give it to the Weres. Sophie Anne killed her husband in the books, so I am wondering if she might at least be involved in any of the final scenes.

Yes, they sort of dropped the whole Sophie-Anne plot line... They have done this in other cases as well. I think this is a symptom of them having too many sub-plot lines going. Eric basically covered her ass by saying RE kidnapped her, so my bet is she will regain Louisiana and who knows? Maybe get Mississippi, too? Maybe that would be the scenario to bring in the character of Andre.

I have been looking forward to seeing Andre come into the picture because he is an evil guy. I think he doesn't come into play until book 6 when Sookie visits New Orleans. But TB has switched up the timelines so much, who knows when/if he will make an appearance.

On the topic of the Eric-Sookie-Bill debate: Don't throw things at me for saying so, but I think things have gone better this season than I expected at the beginning. Reason: AS got very little air time last season and even less the season before. At least now he is getting solid air time, and his character is increasing in importance to the overall story. The fact that the TB team is promoting the threesome as a love triangle and leaving the other characters away in a lot of these promotional shots like Rollingstone indicates to me that they are at least committed to the character of Eric, even if it isn't book Eric.

And AS has used the extra air time to his advantage. He has demonstrated his acting chops, (I am biased I know, but think he is best in the cast). It will be hard for TB management to reduce his role now.

promoting the threesome as a love triangle and leaving the other characters away in a lot of these promotional shots like Rollingstone indicates to me that they are at least committed to the character of Eric, even if it isn't book Eric.
That is a good point!
 So that's 1 point for Eric, and Bill has like 500 points (all of them stolen from book Eric). 

so my bet is she will regain Louisiana and who knows? Maybe get Mississippi, too?
Yeah, I'm really interested in how that will play out. Now I'm wondering if they might jump into the Nevada takeover sooner than later.   

I've just done the frame at a time thing with next week's preview. Who is the guy in the laughable mask and funny teeth? He looks like the kind of monster you would get in the original Outer Limits (mid 1960s), really cheesy and low budget. Is he a demon or a joke?

Or he looks like the kind of monster you'd get in the old Doctor Who series. The present Doctor Who incarnation has too much of a budget to get that cheesy, but the old BBC series (1960s through 1970s) was definitely low budget enough.

Who is the guy in the laughable mask and funny teeth? 
It's so weird. Maybe voodoo mask?

Who is the guy in the laughable mask and funny teeth? 
It's so weird. Maybe voodoo mask? 

Honestly, this is the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene in the promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBMEZvZSWFQ .

He has funny pointed fangs, not where vamps have them.

OMG how did you remember that was on Alvin?

I thought it could be Jesus that's has the mask on.  Or La La is having flashbacks from his v trip

Mary, I saw the 80s version of that Alvin and the Chipmunks "Witch Doctor" video when I was child, on Saturday morning cartoons.  I couldn't find that particular clip, so I posted the next best thing.

haha! I told the witch doctor I was in love with you... Maybe it could be Jesus & LaLa's song.

On a side note it feels really weird typing Jesus. Jesus the Witch Doctor.

LOL -- I told the Witch Doctor I was in Love with You....So perfect for them

What I'm curious about is how does S/B get in her car so that Eric and RE stop them.  Did Eric let her go with Bill?  Is it all part of his plan.  And if she is almost drained again how can she be driving?

When I paused the clip where that weird demon looking thing is....it looks like its Jesus in a mask to be completely honest

Or maybe Jesus turns into this demonic looking thing

Well... i really hope the guy in the bad mask isn't Quinn. We got more of Sam's background now and i think i read someone he was doing some sort of fights himself? Maybe he encountered Quinn there? Book Quinn did fight in the pits ...

exactly what is eric's plan for using sookie? i mean he bites her..i saw in the preview but what is that supposed to do?

and there is only 2 more eps left>.< so sad...things are coming to and end for this season, we will have to wait a whole year for the next season...the TB bug bite itches...

If you read up in this thread and in the Ep 10 thread, I think you'll see what we have been guessing for the next episodes. You may also see some information in the Season Three Info thread.

Psycho voodoo mask guy is Jesus I think - he's wearing the same tank as in the V-trip scene, it looks like his bod.

As to the car scene, I thought maybe the sequence is Eric asks Sookie to drink her blood, he does so, Bill comes to the rescue, Eric & Bill fight, Russell is arriving so Bill grabs Sook and makes a run for it in her car (you can see it in the background when Eric & Bill are fighting) then Eric & Russell fly and catch-up with them, dragging them back to Fangtasia!

also, is the promo for ep.11 only or is it for the last two eps?

Is it Pam who sprayed Bill?

also, is the promo for ep.11 only or is it for the last two eps? 

It's just for Ep 11, Beatrice.

It could be Pam, Karla.... the sleeve looks like a part of a leather jacket (the one she wore in ep10?) and the hand looks too small to be Eric's.

Eric better have shared the plan with Sook before he bites her.  How could he ever be a viable love interest if not.  I know Bill almost drained her against her will and she forgave him, but that's after they were already in a relationship, and he was coming off being tortured and drained himself.  If Eric does bite her, painfully, with no explanation and then they do have her trust him, it's even worse than Bill!

i think Eric will go with his plan without telling ot Sookie why, when and where....he's gonna bite her and she will be unwilling....so barce yourself for a horrible episode from this point of view...BUT remember that he has a plan and no matter what he doesn't want to hurt her....so in the end i guess everything will find a solutions....

Of course Sookie won't forgive him...why should she? nobody is telling her the damn trurth...Eric protectd her all the season but damm it she didon't know..she needs to know!! She will end this season by hating him as she always did....things will change woth Season 4 but then after AE she will be back to hating him or at least not trusting him.....

it could be cruel i know..but i think that's exactly  where the season will end..and she will yell ot all of them to GTFO of her life as in book 3

Mony, I have a horrible feeling you are right!  I will end up having no hair left if someone doesn't start filling her in on the truth.

Eric won't be filling in Sookie on his plan, otherwise she'll just ruin it by doing the opposite of what was instructed. She will also question him like an annoying, relentless 2-year-old until she's satisfied with his answer. And of course, it has to include Bill, the love of her life, since they can't not be together.

OK, so in selfdefence, do you think it will be possible for me to just hate TB Sookie - I'm almost there anyway - and just team up with this "evil" version of Eric?  Just get on board the gravy train?!!!  "Go Eric, bite her, make it sting!!" lol  *shakes head, walks away...*

I'm actually there, Liann. When I was watching Ep 10 I was actually cheering him on to put tape on her mouth when he threw her in the basement. Harsh, but true.

LMAO!!  That's cold.  Necessary, but cold! lol  I think it's more that it's hard for me to buy Eric like this.  We never get Eric's POV in the books, and I've read some fanfic where Eric is definitely vamp and not a fluffy bunny, BUT he's always decent with Sookie. IDK, I'm going to have to make some sort of shift 'cause the constant hoping is killing me...

No need for tape on her mouth - that dungeon is sound-proof.:) We are the only ones who had to listen to her Scream!

Right, Lily! However, when LaLa was the captive Eric told him that they hear everything! LOL!

I'm kinda feeling guilty of agreeing with AB's POV on Eric too, Liann. But as you said, we have to learn to separate the books and the show, since they are so totally in the opposite ends of the spectrum.

Yeah but I think AB hit the right note with eric - in the books, eric was withholding as he is here. It is Sookie who AB gets wrong - her notes aren't being played correctly. She's not clever, she's not learning. She did better in Dallas at FotS. It's like she forgot she can trust Eric in dangerous situations.

And you are right - V. V. G. - eric did say they can hear everything. Why he would want to hear her scream is a mystery to me.:)

He needs something to keep him awake during the day so he can roll out his plan to kill RE! LOL!

Oh, God, you are so right. It is Sookie. Whatever "shortcomings" AB is doing with Eric, AS is making up for it through his acting, as he understands his role very well. And he is trying his best to incorporate book Eric to his TV character. It's AP who doesn't get Sookie.

Eric won't be filling in Sookie on his plan, otherwise she'll just ruin it by doing the opposite of what was instructed. She will also question him like an annoying, relentless 2-year-old until she's satisfied with his answer. And of course, it has to include Bill, the love of her life, since they can't not be together.

Karla, I thought of that, too.  TB Sookie can't seem to follow directions, and what's worse, she's not bright enough to keep her head down and shut up.  I'm re-reading All Together Dead, and while things still go wrong, you can see Sookie is constantly trying to think one step ahead and to pull things together in her head. She asks questions, and she often asks the right questions.  While she doesn't always ask the questions we, as the audience, might want her to at a specific moment, she does usually get there on her own.  It's just so infuriating that Sookie, as Alan Ball has conceived her, is dumber than a box of rocks.  And she screams without the slightest provocation.  USE YOUR HEAD, GIRL!  And, think before you open your big, fat mouth... to scream or call for Bill.

Yep, dumb as a bag of hammers!!  Book Sookie is smart, funny and can think outside the box and on her feet.  Eric feels respect for her in that way.  He knows her loyalty and bravery and can rely on her.  They are a team!  In TB I cannot figure out why, apart from her yummy blood, he would want anything to do with her.  She's dumb, not funny, has no sense of appropriate time or place, can't think on her feet or figure anything out... and let's face it, she's not exactly rocking it in the eye candy department either.  So WHY?!!!  Why would he not just give her to Russell?  He hasn't even had her blood yet.  How can he possibly be in love with her?  I just don't buy it.

The only reason I can think of is he's curious on why Bill can't seem to get enough of her. He's challenged by it. In 1000 years I guess he's bored. IDK, there's just no other reason I can think of.

Good point!  So it's the challenge - I want what you have because you have it - and she's certainly spunky with him *cough*.  Guess he hasn't had too many women saying "no".  But it's not love.  So why is he so adamant about not handing her over; not "doing that to her"?  It's the only thing that gives me hope and makes me think that at least there's that tiny tidbit in there that says he is a man with some honour like book Eric.

TB Eric's strong feelings for Sookie are incongruous with what's been portrayed on the show thus far.  I forget who mentioned this earlier, but the Sookie/Eric bond is constantly growing and evolving in the books--the winks, the dry comments, the come-ons, the give-and-take, the lust, as well as the trust.  We see it happening bit by bit, but we get to see the development.  It's not a mystery.  TB Sookie has none of SVM Sookie's redeeming qualities, so it's hardly believable that gorgeous, sexy, could-have-any-woman-he-wants-with-the-snap-of-his-fingers Eric could feel more for this silly, little woman who doesn't use her head.

I want what you have because you have it - and she's certainly spunky with him *cough*.  Guess he hasn't had too many women saying "no".  But it's not love.

I don't think it started out that way in the novels, either.  Sookie has always been openly defiant and Eric appreciates her spunk.  But we know she has a soft spot for Eric who "gets her" and CH gives us a "smart, funny," self-deprecating, caring Sookie that women can identify with and want to root for.

This makes me mad at AB all over again but I think she will serve more purpose to his plan of vengeance. His attraction to her is only secondary, and again it's not love, yet. But as AS has said in interviews, Sookie is always on his mind, so his attraction to her is growing into something more.

I don't think it started out that way in the novels, either.   

True, Pey. They only clearly hooked up as a couple in Book 9. But the development of their "love story" is clear since Book 2. Defined in Book 3.

True, Pey. They only clearly hooked up as a couple in Book 9. But the development of their "love story" is clear since Book 2. Defined in Book 3.

Oh, I agree, Karla.  Completely.  But, I think, like any love story worth its salt, we have to come to care for the characters.  We have to LIKE the characters.  CH gives us a reason to do so.  I've always seen Sookie and Bill's relationship as the one that came on strong and burned out fast as a result.  Sookie may be able to peer into other people's heads, but she's still very much an ingenue.  Eric warns Sookie in Book 7 that she knows Quinn about as well as she knew Bill.  That statement hurts her, but it also makes her think.  Of course, we know Eric wants her, but he still lets her figure that relationship out on her own.  And, Sookie later says that she regretted doing as much with Quinn without getting to know him better.  I see Eric's developing relationship with Sookie as a slow burn.  Sure, there are the sexy moments.  There's book 4.  But, in each book, we get a Eric/Sookie morsel that keeps (most of us) coming back for more.

That's what we're not seeing in TB. There's no fire between them to spark a great love story. 

I don't think it started out that way in the novels, either.  Sookie has always been openly defiant and Eric appreciates her spunk.  But we know she has a soft spot for Eric who "gets her" and CH gives us a "smart, funny," self-deprecating, caring Sookie that women can identify with and want to root for.

No, totally agree, Pey.  I was saying it isn't love, not because it should be, but just to illustrate the point that it has to be something else driving his insistance on not handing her over.  I don't think he was in love with her at this point in the books either, but he always found a way to have her back if he possibly could.  It seems he's doing that in TB, sort of, but why?  I'm hoping it's because TB Eric has the same sort of honour and integrity as book Eric.

I'm hoping it's because TB Eric has the same sort of honour and integrity as book Eric.

Liann, I'm with you on this.  Fingers crossed.  It's all Alan Ball, so be prepared to hope for the best and expect the worst.

(Liann, I'm reading your analysis of episode 10.  Excellent points.  I'll respond there.)

So why is he so adamant about not handing her over; not "doing that to her"?  It's the only thing that gives me hope and makes me think that at least there's that tiny tidbit in there that says he is a man with some honour like book Eric.

I think it is because of how she helped him with Godric.  Neither Eric, book or show, forgets when someone has helped him.  The other vampires do, but he never takes it for granted--at least not with Sookie.  

Hi guys, the ONLY time this season I have seen a spark of book Eric with Sookie was when he showed up at her door and said "I lied" and then told her about the Nazi weres. Other than that the Eric & Sookie on the show are just unrecognizable to me.

I think it is because of how she helped him with Godric.

That's a really good point, Dallas.  It was one thing she did that would show her to be a person of worth, as opposed to how Eric sees the rest of the "human trash" that surrounds him.  It was a classy thing she did, staying with his maker when he was forbidden to, and he was grateful.

  Other than that the Eric & Sookie on the show are just unrecognizable to me.

  Yeah, Kelli, they really are completely different animals.  I just keep hoping for something... more fool me.

another clip for this episode....can def. see RE hearing Eric out re: why he killed Talbot  http://www.hbo.com/true-blood/episodes/3/35-fresh-blood/video/clip-eric-russell.html?autoplay=true&cmpid=ABC123

maybe he will start to trust him enough to put the plot in motion.

Eric feeds Sookie, or lets Bill do it after making him tell her the truth.  

If AB stays true to the idea of how swapping vamp blood works from the books, Eric will have to feed Sookie.  If Bill feeds her this would be the 3rd time he has given her blood (Rattray attack, after he drained her)  and would create the permanent blood bond. 

This episode's previews are up. Sam is yelling at Terry, not cool. I think he is going to kick Tommy out this week too. Which is funny cause it's only been like two days Tommy's been there. The Eric scene is great of course I can't wait to see the rest.

I was wondering if the writing "who will survive the final two episodes" is an omen of someone dying... who could it be??

Maybe Crystal already... RE for sure. I bet he's the one being cermented.

What about Jessica? Does anyone know about her contract? If she's back with Hoyt now, her death would be really tragic :/

well cementing doesn't kill a vamp - it's like REALLY BAD torture... and apparently Mr O'Hare said he's in season 4...Crystal's a good option but I'd think AB'd wanna see the were-panther plot and the link to Jason evolve... Jessica would be a tragedy!!

Has anyone considered how Alcide will make a comeback before the end of the Season? I was wondering if the porch hug was the last we saw of him in season 3.

Also, wondering what that article meant by Jason doing a huge favor to the people of Hotshot... will he be bitten & become a were panther in Season 3 thus allowing the population not to breed amongst brother/cousins any longer?

*snickering about the "brother/cousins" thing*  

I think I read where Jason would give the HotShot folks a heads up about the impending police raid Andy was talking about a couple of episodes back.

ah, that sounds bout right... shame, I would love to see Jason turn into one of those black panthers!

i could be wrong here but wasn't there a spoiler that said Alcide will have sex with Debbie sometime in the finale?

Wow, really?!  As they say on South Park "Dude, that just f*cked up!"  That would effectively write him off as a potential suitor for Sook, though.  I mean Debbie tried to kill her... not sensing the forgiveness on that one... even Sookie.

That would stay truer to the book but man is it messed up.

That's right, Chelsea.  Alcide does have sex with Debbie again, doesn't he.  I think it's implied?

wondering how they would tie that into the story line going on now...

If you go on the HBO site, where you see the vids for ep. 35, the slogan is: "Bill tests the limits of Sookie's trust, again." I think that this whole Stoopie/Beeyul saga is gonna come to a screeching halt and that this dragging on of the eek love story is just to add further effect to the deception that will finally sink through Sook's grey matter by the end of the season on all things Bill.

Ever wonder if we will see SA again? Where is she?

If Bill feeds her this would be the 3rd time he has given her blood (Rattray attack, after he drained her)  and would create the permanent blood bond.

Sorry to disagree, even by book standards, this isn't the case. CH has said that there is no a certain number of times for a blood bond and three times is not a required number. And it has to be a mutual exchange of blood anyway, not just a one-way donation. But AB hasn't adhered to the books concerning blood bonds. He has his own rules which seem to have more to do with sexual attraction.

I was wondering if SA gets staked since Eric and Pam are supposed to be drenched in blood. If SA explains Bill's role that should be convincing even for Stoopie. So maybe Bill stakes her to shut her up.

Saw an interesting idea on another blog site today. (can't remember which one...sometimes I get REALLY bored at work ) Someone had suggested that maybe Yvetta is a catalyst for AE.  If she was Eric's flavor of the week would they bring her back for more than a couple episodes?  She was also very taken aback that Eric left all to Pam. Hallow was spurned by his disinterest as well. Any thoughts?

I was wondering if SA gets staked since Eric and Pam are supposed to be drenched in blood. If SA explains Bill's role that should be convincing even for Stoopie.

She would probably be the one that AB's referring to, the character who won't survive to S4. I can't think of any other.

I agree, Erin. I think Yvetta will be somewhat linked to Hallow (they couldn't be one since they will be casting another actress for Hallow). Maybe she'll ask Hallow to curse him for her. Bitter much?

Here are other spoilers for this ep:

In next episode Jessica will be seen confessing to Hoyt that she drank human blood.

King Russell will kidnap Sookie while she is with Bill. Sam will accept his darker side and isolate himself from everyone. Lafayette will be seen struggling with new enemies.

http://www.trueblood-italy.com/?p=1742

I'm guessing Bill will rescue Sookie from Eric's dungeon (how in the world will he do that?!) that's why they will get into her car where Eric and RE stops them. Not really interested with Sam and LaLa's struggles.

Maybe Yvetta sets Sookie free to get even with Eric.

That would be it, Judy. She's so angry at Eric that she took the chance to spite him.

Here's the video of RE and Eric's confrontation. I love all their scenes together. Great, great actors! RE really holds on to Talbot's trophy remains wherever he goes.

http://www.hbo.com/true-blood/episodes/3/35-fresh-blood/video/clip-eric-russell.html?autoplay=true&cmpid=ABC158#/true-blood/episodes/3/35-fresh-blood/video/clip-eric-russell.html/eNo1js2KwjAUhSmFgvMUd6PiIg1SChJwocWtyMy8QEyuNpD2xtx0sEvffNr52R3Oge98b03ebr6cRTr02o-JmYb6hM+UP3Jak7f-9UXf8aw7LPgDo0NW8BkHhKMnsgpOoYSqVtB4F0DAKToDhvpbnGAM7wMzel-UpgvO7g-HZlvvVnpIFLwe92kCLbKseC3lHMV1ZkoMjskiy0pWtbhF5PZv+dGVZroSk4oR8RdftqnzEhRwqyMqwO6K9ht4iEyb 

In fact Yvetta would do it because she'd be jealous that Eric was going to have sex with Sookie.

that would def. make sense Ancient Pythoness...I also like the idea of Bill putting her in danger by releasing her as it would show the contrast of Eric as protecting her.

Also - in the books it talks about Eric always being high handed when it comes to Sookie.  Locking her in the basement is very high handed.

I would be jealous too, if I were Yvetta. I'd be so mad I'd go to the dungeon and stake Sookie, even if she's not a vamp!

So Bill will arrive on cue, when Yvetta sets Sookie free. They'd be thankful to her and gang up on how Eric is a meany, blah, blah. They go out and ride the yellow car. Okay. I'm seeing this in my head now.

Here are videos of Crystal and Jason, and Sam.

http://www.trueblood-news.com/jason-and-crystal-have-a-serious-talk-sneak-peak-video

Your brains are scrambled eggs, Jason.

http://www.trueblood-news.com/sam-barges-into-merlottes-sneak-peek-video

Sam's turning into his drunk dad. Sooner or later we'll see him walking around in his briefs.

Sam's turning into his drunk dad. Sooner or later we'll see him walking around in his briefs.

I suspect it won't be quite as revolting. I'm still having nightmare flashbacks for Joe Lee.

Yeah, it wouldn't be so bad...

Had me thinking if SM has abs... AS, Joe, Ryan, and the rest of the boys have them... just a random thought.

I was happy AB's showing the darker side of Sam. But I think it's going way over the top, as always. I want the boring Sam back.

I was happy AB's showing the darker side of Sam. But I think it's going way over the top, as always.

It seems to me that Alan Ball and his team of writers think that this is the way to make Sam more "complex" as a character.  I think it's just lazy.  Must everyone on this show be screwed up?  It really doesn't make him more interesting to me.

Yes, it makes sense that SA gets staked... but just a thought, if RE is cemented and SA staked, who will rule Louisiana and Mississippi??

Sam has moobs. i find them very distracting. I hope he wears a sports bra if he goes jogging.

I would be really surprised if SA is killed off.  RE isn't going to do it he already has what he wants from her, Bill isn't old enough to take her and Eric was only sanctioned to kill RE.  I can totally see Eric making some sort of deal with her that he'll take out RE..she'll inherit everything but only if she leaves Sookie alone.  (Of course Eric won't tell her of the Authority's sanction).  Besides I thought I saw a pic of her all dressed in black as if in mourning.

SA won't be killed off because her tv version is crappy and really annoying and AB only likes to kill off the characters that we actually like - not counting Eric of course.

I agree with the logic both facetious and otherwise about SA not getting killed. So who gets staked since Eric and Pam are covered in blood?

Could Talbot's crystal urn go "bye-bye"?  Drop...splat... drenched vamps?

I thought about that too.

AB said someone would die, but did he specify vamp?  If not, it could really be anyone...

Since it seems to happen at Fangtasia perhaps it's Chow.  The only other alternatives are human, Ginger & Yvetta.

Since it seems to happen at Fangtasia perhaps it's Chow.

Has anyone actually seen Chow this season?  It would be a little out of left field.

AB said someone would die, but did he specify vamp?  If not, it could really be anyone...

I have a huge hit-list of possibilities but that would only leave Eric,Pam and RE for season 4.

Sam embraces his dark side, alienating everyone except Tara

ha ha. Tara showing her really good judgment, yet again!

DID SOMEONE PEPPER SPRAY BILL? SHIT I LOVE THAT! IS THAT ALL IT TAKES TO GET HIM TO GO AWAY? 

Bill really needs to get hit or thrown out a la Jason (what a great scene...) more!

Yes, it was emotionally satisfying, wasn't it?

Since it seems to happen at Fangtasia perhaps it's Chow.

Yeah, where is Chow? I see him in Glee. LOL

It won't be RE, since he will be in Season 4. This can be a long shot, but maybe it's a were? Is Debbie confirmed to be in Season 4 onwards?

I don't think RE will be in S4, all they've done is leave the door open to having him back because he'll be in cement. Frankly, they should just stake him since he is very strong and can get out and he'll be really pissed when he does get out.

I suspect it won't be quite as revolting. I'm still having nightmare flashbacks for Joe Lee.

Aw, this'll make you feel better.

EEEEEEK!  You evil, evil woman!  Don't do that without fair warning...  lol  

Look at this lovely screen shot. His eyes look much better in natural light.

LOL me too! Even if it's the damp dungeon

LOL. I love how your biggest complaint about the dungeon is its "damp" ha ha ha

- well I want to say I will quit watching but I just don't know if I could. 

ACH! I tried, Dallas. I really tried to stop watching.

What are the thoughts on what Bill is hiding from Sookie?

He's gay?

Yes, they sort of dropped the whole Sophie-Anne plot line... 

Wonder what crap they'll cobble together for plotlines from 6 and 7? The whole New Orleans and Rhodes stories would be kaput.

so my bet is she will regain Louisiana and who knows? Maybe get Mississippi, too?
Yeah, I'm really interested in how that will play out. Now I'm wondering if they might jump into the Nevada takeover sooner than later.  

Hm, interesting....

n TB I cannot figure out why, apart from her yummy blood, he would want anything to do with her.  She's dumb, not funny, has no sense of appropriate time or place, can't think on her feet or figure anything out... and let's face it, she's not exactly rocking it in the eye candy department either.  

Liann, you are deliciously evil. Thank you.

  In 1000 years I guess he's bored. 

He's gonna go after a dimwitted, screetchy fugly girl with wonky arms and often inappropriate instincts of communication. Well, I can see how this would be a challenge to him. Maybe he and Pam should try giving her a makeover? Ha ha

B Eric's strong feelings for Sookie are incongruous with what's been portrayed on the show thus far.  

YUP. These writers suck.

 was wondering if the porch hug was the last we saw of him in season 3.

Lets hope so!

I was happy AB's showing the darker side of Sam. But I think it's going way over the top, as always.

It seems to me that Alan Ball and his team of writers think that this is the way to make Sam more "complex" as a character.  I think it's just lazy.  Must everyone on this show be screwed up?  It really doesn't make him more interesting to me.

AMEN! Boring! Boring! It's like the Roseann Show with Vampires. Well, Roseann was funny. So scratch that.

WHEW! More or les caught up I thinks...

Hey Guys I just ran across this interview with JM & Alcide will be in this episode "to take care of some unfinished business".  Here's the link...

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/08/28/emmy-true-blood-joe-manganiello-video/

Sniff scene? Hmm... Here's another interview of him: http://truebloodnet.com/true-blood-joe-manganiello-explains-sookie-alcides-relationship/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+TrueBloodNet+(True+Blood+News-+ALL+the+HBO+True+Blood+Season+3+|+4+Spoilers+Videos+Interviews)

Yet another interview with JM.  Alcide will be back in Bon Temps "to finish that conversation with Sookie" & he'll be "getting down and dirty with some vampires".  Hmmm  Remember the casting call for his character..they were looking for someone as tall or taller then AS because there would be a physical confrontation.  So I guess we know that part is true now and given the fact that Eric put Sookie in chains in the basement it might not be pretty.  Here's the link:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/08/emmys-true-bloods-joe-manganiello-says-hell-be-back-to-get-down-and-dirty.html

So what Alcide?  LOL.  I am actually excited for tonight's episode, with only two left everybody has some splainin' do.  I have faith that something will work right for my man(Eric swoon) but even if it doesn't Bill's loud mouth gets tied up in a chair-with silver I presume- so at least that is a start. I just hope Eric can speak loudly enough for Old Bill to hear him.

I can't warm to Alcide at all, yes he's tall and, I suppose, good looking but so far he's been about as charming as a wooden block. I understand that he's a regular in series 4 too so perhaps he'll improve with aquaintance.

I can't warm to Alcide at all, yes he's tall and, I suppose, good looking but so far he's been about as charming as a wooden block. I understand that he's a regular in series 4 too so perhaps he'll improve with aquaintance.

 I am so with you on this. I can't stand Alcide. I think Book!Alcide is a self-absorbed manwhore prick and TB!Alcide is a numby musclehead. Thank goodness there are others that feel the same way! I think Joe Manganiello's arm porn is getting in the way of common sense. 

I don't really care about Alcide at all...actually he was very boring and he saved his season just thanks to his body not his storyline...hope he won't demage my Viking and hope our Viking kicks his ass....and if in the process Alcide accidentally kicked Billy's ass i will be fine.

in the process Alcide accidentally kicked Billy's ass i will be fine.

And it would have to be "by accident" because Alcide is too stupid to actually execute something like that on purpose

and if in the process Alcide accidentally kicked Billy's ass i will be fine.

I think that he would have to have a little something to do with Season 4 as the wolves help in the witch war, assuming AB does what he should.  Mony, it is okay if Alcide gets in a few licks but I think that the honor of actually whupping Bill's ass should go to the Viking.

Actually, if Stoopie wasn't such an idiot, the ultimate would be HER whipping Bill's ass with Eric standing by if Bill decides to fight back.  Alcide can hold a bag of stakes for Sookie and Eric.  (And of course, I see no need for him to wear a shirt just to hold a bag of stakes.  That is pretty much what he is good for. Poor ignorant Alcide.)

You're right..he is too stupid for that XD

Btw i will watch this episode knowing that it will be hard...becouse i don't think Eric will tell Sookie anything..he is going with his plan and he thinks she didin't want to help him...BIG missunderstanding here and all Bill's fault!!!

So probably his first taste will be unwilling and "cruel" in a kind of way...all for a big plan of course but definitley hard to watch and will put their relationship on the Hate level sadly....

I just wanna stake Bill.

I just wanna stake Bill.

Mony, do you read Fanfiction?   (OMG! How awful am I???)

Mari it's okay to pimp your swag! Ha, I already knew pimp but my students have taught me the usage of swag. LOL

Mari it's okay to pimp your swag! 

Ha ha. Thanks Dallas! Well I try to keep my pimping in the Fanfic thread but the Bill Killin' - that's just a public service.

Mony, I am writing a humorous Fanfiction story that is chapter after chapter of Bill meeting his final death. I recommend it for post-True Blood agitation and angst. I do not recommend reading it while you (1) are drinking or (2) need to be quiet.

It's called "Oh No! Vampire BIll!" and there are links to the chapters in the Fanfic thread.

Oh yeah i've read it!!!!priceless...it made me dream!!! XD

it made me dream!

well I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you didn't dream of the gigantic sock monkey!

Well, I completely dug all the Askars/Eric moments, even though they were few & far between than what the promos promised.

Loved the way he caressed her cheek right before he had to bite her. Such a great moment, along w/ the touching one w/ Pam.  Loved it.  Everything else I could have done without.

Okay, I have to admit that the Jessica & Hoyt scene was pretty hot at the beginning too.

But the new wild & Dangerous Sam is a bit of a stretch and sort of annoying and hilarious at the same time.   Almost as bad as the Jason wanting to be a cop episodes.

Regarding the draining scene, does anyone think Eric is going to be the one to give her blood after Russel is demised?  Probably not, since he will be half fried.  Since they both have drunk each others blood now, do they now have a blood bond?

I liked how even though they included all the side stories they did not spend an inordinate amount of time on them.  Great episode IMO.  Hate that the finale is two freaking weeks away.  Could have cried for the Eric scenes, he was so awesome tonight.  Bill got a clue!  Bout time, Beeyull.  Don't get comfortable Bill--Eric is not your friend and we all hope he kicks your ass.  Did Sookie begin to understand even for a second?  I wanted to believe it for a minute, but I couldn't.  He was so sweet to both Sookie and Pam.

BUT...  She DEFENDED ERIC in the car with Bill.  YAY YAY  She did not deny that she had feelings for him.  Even after she told Yvetta that she hated him.  I am still hopeful.  This will work out, this will work out.

And of course, Mari will still help us all out.

Since they both have drunk each others blood now, do they now have a blood bond? 

It takes more than that. And they need to be mutual exchanges. And we don't really know if they will have real blood bonds (as in the books) on the show.

And of course, Mari will still help us all out.

*waves* Hi Dallas! I will continue to do my part. I'm actually updating my human fic and the next chapter is a Bill beatdown chapter and its funny as hell and I'm wondering if (I kind of think yes) it would be funny to folks even if they didn't read the previous chapters.But then of course I'm biased b/c I think its funny.

I don't have cable so I have to wait a few days for the show to be available online to watch. It sounds like it was mixed as usual.I don't like Sookie and Bill in a car together. That sounds very anticlimatic. Eh, guess I'll know soon enough....

Mari, the Sookie and Bill banter was sickening but less so than before.  She still doesn't trust him and said that she would be stupid to trust him afterwards. Of course then she told him that she wanted to start over after all was said and done and kissed his hand. But then Eric clued him in and Bill looks like a villain in Sookie's eyes. IDK.  But I have hope that after RE is taken care of Eric will at least expose Bill or something.  I know that AE is coming and I am at the point now where I won't let anyone take my blinders off of me.

after RE is taken care of

I'm the worst at paying attn to this stuff, but I thought he was on again in Season 4?

I could swear that Denis O'Hare said that he appears in like dream sequences or something.  It was in that interview with the E! lady.  Where she scolded him for pulling out her ex-coanchors spine.

I hate that Eric's plan is to die with RE, I assume he'll burn slower due to age and therefore once RE is super crispy he'll be brought back in but still. Seems like a stupid plan. Eric didn't say anything to Sookie all episode! What was with that? The look he gave her before he drained her was very tender though I must admit. Also I loved all the Bill bashing lol Pam with the silver spray, and Eric which I predicted would be a set up fight for RE.

Where she scolded him for pulling out her ex-coanchors spine

That was the funniest thing ever. OMG. Russell's crazy. I'm still LMAO at Zinnea's comment in the Ep 10 thread:

Dirt devil in one and cookie jar in the other - probably. He is the multitasking mentally ill grieving vampire who will clean up his spilled gooey boyfriend while eating you after he's eaten your children

That is SOOOO going into a chapter!  

For maybe a split second you could see Sookie wondering at his tenderness.  Please Alan Ball, please you jenky little hobbit.  Let her get a clue and give us what we want--nay need next season.

The side stories really made me angry this episode. I didn't need to see all that Arlene shit or Sam. I also don't care about Jason I guess. I did like Bill being in on the dumb plan. Eric and Bill, Batman and Robin, lol.

La La and his talking statues.... voodoo doll and Jesus with the scary face thingy.. Glad La La told him to leave.

There was an awful lot in this episode that was a big waste of space. And I think we're getting the TB version of Rosemary's baby for Arlene.

I was kind of wondering how the baby was alright when Arlene looked like she had been skewered in that bed.  I have had a miscarriage and that much blood? Hmmm... But there was an out when Holly(yuck) told her that if the spirit was supposed to be born it would.

I did like Bill being in on the dumb plan. Eric and Bill, Batman and Robin, lol.

Is Eric Batman in this scenario?   Did anyone think Sookie finally bought a clue during the charade?

No she didn't and she is going to blame Bill now too which is good.

I loved Eric's ringtone lol. So happy and up beat.

But she did give Eric a sweet-ish look when he caressed her face.

Bill trying to make Eric look bad and himself better in the car was pathetic.

But she did give Eric a sweet-ish look when he caressed her face.

That's because she's sweet on him, and she thinks it's only the blood that's making her feel that way.

just like in the books

Yes, and I was just talking to my hubby about it.  She wanted to blame the blood, but he only had a sip and she has constant sexy dreams of Eric(even when no sex takes place) but she has had like forty gallons of Bill's blood.  Why isn't Bill's Little Soldier calling to her in her dreams?

She didn't tell Bill about kissing Eric either. Which I see as a good thing all in all.

You can tell they are still building up to Bill revealing his unsaintlyness soon.  He definitely acting skiddish around Sookie.  I'm not buying them as a couple anymore either.

SA will be there next week, so there way be some interesting reveals going on.

Yep, she is definitely hiding things about Eric from Bill.  If the Kiss wasn't important than why hide it.  I mean, he kissed her.  And why hasn't she asked Bill what he is hiding from her yet?

I'm finely reading Rosemary's baby.    Eric's phone going off while with RE.    I kinda liked this episode.  Now how much blood did they take from her.  Bill is yelling yet again she's going to die.  HE needs to feed her.   Why isn't she a vampire yet, so annoying.  I hope Eric feeds her.  wishing that.

Eric probably won't feed her since he will be on the brink of death by the time RE dies.

Sophie is dressed in black rather than her signature white.  She is moouuurrrrnnning Russell (thanks Franklin) LOL

Why isn't she a vampire yet, so annoying. 

Maybe ET can't become vampire in TBLand.

Oh wait she's also " alien"  so maybe she's immune to it.  And the no blood type thing that they never went into.  Yeah I figured Eric wouldn't give her blood.

Can anyone see her saving Eric in the next episode? I mean after Bill (or PAm) feeds her she just runs out to save Eric? I thought a spoiler said that she did save him though. Why would she do that? Grr each week is so hard on me.

two weeks we have to wait.  I see her running out of the club, but she's chained.  Was she before?

She did save him when they had him chained up with the fellow ship.

Yes but he was being sweet to her then.

I know 2 weeks..

So true.

I don't think she is running out to save him, but I could be wrong.  Was she chained when she ran out?  Or was she holding silver chains for some reason....

Yes, but he was being sweet and apologetic when he was caressing her face before RE just dug in.  And he even gave Beyull a regretful look before he sank his fangs in.

NO idea but I remember seeing the Godric/Sookie vision with Eric. SO she goes out to him and at least stands over him. Someone has to save him since he is just planning on burnning up.

I bet she is holding silver chains for RE.

I think that she will save him, anyone else see Godric's "ghost"?  If not because she has feelings that she denies but it will also make Beyull feel worse.

okay, I buy that and recall the Godric moment.  So she runs out to save him, after Beehl infuses her with his blood.  I'm sure that's going to burn old Beehl up something good.

Maybe Bill tells her too. He could be like "He was trying to save you, it was the only way. He cares for you." then she would do it cause Bill told her too, and Bill gets to be the good guy again.

RE is so funny at the end of this.  He is so happy.  Even Eric is  happy there for a bit.

I just finished watching and I think Russell is as funny as ever. Mari - he still hasn't spilled the Talbot smoothie!! I will love reading about that in the Kill Bill fic. I loved Eric and Pam tonight. I  hope Sookie figures out how sweet he is on her and that Beeyl is a lying wanker.

So Is SA getting Mississippi and Louisiana back?  Or are they gonna kill her off?

Has anyone seen a preview for episode 12?

omg, i miss mary ann. lol that is how much i am hating this years TB, bring back mary ann please!!!!!

OMG. That in remembrance at the beginning?  If I counted right there were 36 dead cast members.  They killed my Cooter.

Funniest. Line. Ever. My roommates watch the show, too, so we all love to just throw that out in conversation.

Holly wanted to know if Arlene was healthy. This is definitely going to be Rosemary's baby. They gave Rosemary a decoction to drink daily. There's something else that I think is a parallel, but it would be a spoiler for anyone who wants to read the book. So I'll keep that one to myself unless folks want to know.

I think SA will spill the beans about Bill. And then Sookie may even get a clue since Eric went out there to die with RE in order to protect her.

Oh, and I think Jesus is part demon for sure now.

I was thinking that maybe Sookie runs out with the chains because Pam is the one who tells her that Eric went out there to die with RE in order to protect her.

Holly wanted to know if Arlene was healthy.  I forgot about that line, I should go back and rewatch

I was thinking that maybe Sookie runs out with the chains because Pam is the one who tells her that Eric went out there to die with RE in order to protect her.

That makes sense. And neither Bill nor Pam can go out.

And I think Bill will look like more of a weasel for not telling Sookie that Eric went to save her. If that doesn't melt her screeching heart, nothing will!!

Oh and I'm even more bored about Sam's storyline now. BTW, I think that Tommy can't read. That's why he scoffed at the idea of college when Sam suggested it a while back, and why he threw the order pad down when Sam told him to wait tables.

He probably can't read - good theory!

However, I may enjoy the Rosemary's baby storyline.

too tired to type, so forgive the simple thoughts - just wanted your take on the following:

I thought eric's plan was lame; I don't get why he wants to die. Why a suicide mission? He couldn't figure out anything better?

I did not catch tenderness with sookie, all I saw was her screaming and yelling at bill. she had absolutely no clue that this was a plan to save the human race against a madman, allow eric vengeance for his family, etc.

He stroked her face very tenderly and then Russell bit her. Eric has chosen to die to get revenge and save Sookie and maybe humanity. Russell is much more powerful than Eric is. There is no way to outmatch him in a fight. This is his only option. With all of Bill's pronouncements that he would die for Sookie, Eric is the one to just do it, not brag about it. That's very typical of book Eric as well. Bill is all talk and Eric is real action.

Sookie was being bitten, for once she had a real reason to scream. I don't think Eric had any other choice besides the course he took. Pam, Eric, and Bill together wouldn't have been able to overpower Russell. And I think Eric's plan may even dawn on Sookie eventually.

So Bill told Eric the truth about Sookie's blood.  It may delay it but you still burn.

Bill told Eric last week.

But he told him the truth.

Yes he did. And Eric went ahead with his plan knowing that. That's why he mumbled, in Swedish, that he didn't want them to see him burn.

I wish we did not have to see ANY of the sidestories, they all annoyed the hell outta me, except maybe Tara's conversation with Andy. AP, that is very good insight on Tommy being illiterate!! And I believe Jesus is definitely part Demon too!

I could NOT believe Sookie & Bill's conversation in the car, it was like watching Dumb & Dumber, the romcom version!!! Until now I have not delved into the whole "Stoopie" chats but after the car scene, I must agree, Stoopie galore!

Bill told Eric the truth last week about the blood after Eric questioned him about it. I think Alcide must have given a thorough report to Eric.

Dumb and Dumber - haha LOL

Oh i wondered about them "please don't let them see" line. Interessting he's talking about 'them' here... i guess that means Pam and Sookie. Such tender moments... I'm nearly ok after that dungeon-screw-up again. Yvetta will definately play a bigger role now... She's pretty mad at Eric I loved the museum-scene... Eric's cheery ringtone AND his little ponytail. WTH did he wear a ponytail??

I am not seeing how Sookie can go from lying unconscious due to blood loss, to running outside to save Eric with chains. That means someone had to have fed her.
Since Bill is tied up in chains himself, and the only other person left is Pam... Okay, so to save her maker she would get the idea to feed Sookie so Sookie can save Eric?

So what Alcide.

I posted the links about Alcide as FYI spoilers.  I want Eric & Sookie to get together but lets be honest, it looks like AB will have Alcide & Sookie get together before that happens in season 4.  Hallow will be introduced next season, give Eric amnesia, then amnesia Eric/Sookie hook up but before that happens it will be Alcide/Sookie.  At least it's better than Bill.  And in Sookies mind it will seem a safer choice.  She's going to be distrustful of Vamps now that she knows about her fae blood and what they really want from her.

Majik: Did Alcide have a big role in book 4? I remember it was the eric amnesia book, but I can't remember how much alcide was in it.

Does anyone remember? (Too lazy to go to the bookcase and pull my DTTW).

I might be the only one, but I kinda liked this episode.

I think they set it up really well for Yvetta to be the one to introduce Hallow.  A scorned woman looking for revenge.

The Eric/Pam moment was great!

I could NOT believe Sookie & Bill's conversation in the car, it was like watching Dumb & Dumber, the romcom version!!!

I read that scene differently.  I really think that we are seeing the end of their relationship (at least for now).  I've ended relationships where there was no great fight, no ill feelings, not even a lack of love.  But the relationship needed to end because of 'something' - we wanted different things, etc.  And in those moments, I've played the "I wish" game.  "I wish we didn't have to do this."  "I wish I didn't have to move away" "I wish we could be happy forever"  Even though you KNOW that can't happen.  I *think* this is what we saw in the car. 

Or, maybe this is what I'm 'wishing' and I'm completely wrong.   

I had nothing to comment on last weeks epi because I was so freaking upset when Eric threw Sookie in the basement.  I watch the show with my two grown daughters 28 & 30 and we all had the same reaction.  It took me days mulling it over in my mind to reconcile his actions.  I wanted him to at least turn around and say something to her like he's doing it to protect her.  The fact that he said nothing didn't help the Eric/Sookie relationship build.  We've seen so little of that it's hard to imagine it at this point.

Shanoo...I agree with you.  We are seeing the end of their relationship.  She does still love him but she just can't get past some things like the van which she has mentioned a couple of times to him.  And now that he admitted that he kept the "walking in daylight" fact from her tipped the scales a little more.  I think in the next episode it will come out when she meets SA that Bill was sent to BT on SA orders and that will be the last nail in his coffin.

I can totally see Pam giving Sookie her blood to save Eric.  I think Sookie does have a bit of a clue that Eric was doing this to save her.  His tenderness towards her before biting her gave her a big clue.  Did anyone notice how much Eric was swallowing while he was touching Sookie...it was as if he wanted to say something to her but couldn't.

I do think that Pam is a little jealous of Sookie though.  She knows how much Sookie means to Eric especially after their conversation when Eric wouldn't use Sookie to save himself and now he is cuffed to RE and dying in order to protect her.

I was upset too when he threw her in the dungeon without saying anything last week, but then I figured that he would find it so hard to do that, even though he knew he had to do it, that he wouldn't be able to look at her or speak to her whilst he did it. Better she hated him and lived.

I think Pam's a bit surprised but then Eric is taking the fall to keep her safe too, apart from QSA she's the only other witness to RE offing the magister.

I noticed the swallowing, I read it as sadness. I tend to choke up and swallow more when I'mabout to cry. I think Eric felt really awful about doing this to Sookie and he wanted to tell her that, and also goodbye. He was about to execute his 'plan' and commit suicide so he wants to tell her all his feelings and how much he is going to miss her.

Here's the postmortem:

Wow, there were some awesome points made here.

Jesus as being part Demon- didn't even think of that . I was just laughing because my husband was happy Lala sent him home. LOL

The Rosemary's baby storyline- could be interesting the evil child won't die and didn't someone say that Arlene is about to join the FOTS

Hate Eric's plan right now too.  I got teared up,even though I know he won't die. I didn't want him to hurt.

Love that Bill is gonna get caught.

They shouldn't waste time with Sookie and Alcide. No one wants to see Dumb and Dumber-with sex.

Love the idea of Pam giving Sookie blood instead of Bill. Still don't understand how ALL of Bill's blood has produced like one dream in season one and the little taste of Eric has a cult following for numbers.

Still can't wait for Amnesia Eric, the Return of the World Class Ass and of course, the GP.

I think Alexander Skarsgard outdid himself in this episode.  All the emotions that played across his face in the scenes with Pam, before he bit into Sookie, and especially once he walked so furtively out of Fangtasia into sunlight: tenderness, fatherly affection, fear, torment, hesitation, resolve, wonder, awe, joy, desperation.  All the expressions that danced across his face, his eyes so intense... subtlety isn't lost on him.  And he played it so very effectively in this episode.

soooo wouldnt have been smarter for Eric to wear clothing with a hood? Or sun resistant clothing? Then he could be saved and just wait for RE to disintegrate.....the thought processes of these characters are starting to get pretty lame.

Sams outburst was also stupid, even if he has a "bad" side, how could he lose all remnants of his past self? The scene just lacked common sense.

soooo wouldnt have been smarter for Eric to wear clothing with a hood? Or sun resistant clothing?

Not to give undue credit to the writers (who I think tend to write off the cuff without framing each episode within the larger context/arc of the storyline), but I imagine the point is that Eric needs to try to act as "normal" as possible without giving anything away to RE.  The thought of Eric wearing anything with a hood (costume clothing in Book 7 notwithstanding) seems ridiculous to me.

My favorite Skagasm came when he was looking down at her getting ready to bite her and he kept gulping.  You could see his Adams Apple doing little up and down jerks.  Oh, it  was warm, tender, and sexy as hell.

You could see the want in his face, and it wasn't a primal vampire want, in fact, to me he almost seemed like a teenage boy going in for his first kiss with the girl he had a crush on since grade school.  It was by far the best moment of the episode for me and probably the season as well.

I don't know how badly Sookie needs blood, really.  Bill could be over zealous and wanting to get them closer to a bond.  Hopefully Pam will not allow it.  I think that Sookie will save Eric.  I remember an interview where AB says that she puts her trust in someone that you would not expect.

AND, if Eric has a vision of Godric saving him, and it turns out to be Sookie, he will have little reason to continue to try to deny his feelings.  Sookie already sees his other side. So, all in all, I am happy with the way things are going. FINALLY!

I actually had a nightmare about those damn talking voodoo dolls last night.  I knew I should have fast forwarded over that part.   I have a fear of dolls, clowns, and ventriloquist dummys.  That actually freaked me out.  I know it was supposed to be funny or something, but I hate that stuff.  I can't even watch those Chuckie movies.  I know I am a weenie.

I could NOT believe Sookie & Bill's conversation in the car, it was like watching Dumb & Dumber, the romcom version!!!

I really think that we are seeing the end of their relationship (at least for now).

I read it the same way, Shannon. To me, that conversation sounded like two people who knew their relationship was over, but are unwilling to admit it to themselves (and each other). At this point, they are just desperately trying to hang on to the relationship they had.

So, instead, they take a trip to La-La land and stay in Delusionville.

The whole thing was very "shoulda, coulda, woulda" and "If the world was a perfect place and fairy tales really did come true..."

I actually had a nightmare about those damn talking voodoo dolls last night.  I knew I should have fast forwarded over that part.   I have a fear of dolls, clowns, and ventriloquist dummys.  That actually freaked me out.  I know it was supposed to be funny or something, but I hate that stuff.  I can't even watch those Chuckie movies.  I know I am a weenie.

Lol hey guys I'm back after a long while. If you're a weenie because of that then so am I. I watched a movie about this doll maker and the dolls came back to life. I had nightmares for years about it.

You know, I think it's interesting that Eric uses the word "love" when he describes what he feels for Pam.  It seems to contradict what he says to Sookie in Season 2 when she observes that Eric has a lot of love for Godric.  His reply then was, "Don't use words I don't understand."  In this episode, when Pam tells him not to do it because it might not work, Eric tenderly cups his child's face and says, "Come on, what's this?  You know I love you more when you're cold and heartless."  He then smiles and kisses her on the forehead.  Sloppy, inconsistent writing/character development on the writers' part, or do you think they are intentionally portraying Eric differently?  It seems significant that he uses the very word that he claims not to understand.

the whole B/S car scene, led up to the final straw breaking between B/S. Because in the car they kept saying they wanted to start over...and then in Fangtasia Sookie screams at bill "this is how you want to start over?" when he tell RE that Sookie's blood does help you walk in the sun.

OMG. I loved Pam's line: "This is not just about your relationship, you infatuated tween." Bill is so full of himself. I'm so happy to be right that she's the one who sprayed him! Good job Pam! Let's all buy Glitter Silver to defend ourselves from assholes like Bill!

Judy (AP) was right! Yvetta let Sookie go. Hmm. The stupid immigrant is a cardiologist, huh. I wonder what happened to her. Maybe Ginger attacked her so she can save Pam? I'm sure Pam won't leave her alive. So who will curse Eric?

Bill and Sookie doing The Talk. Spell it out guys. IT"S OVER. We love each other but it's not enough, yada, yada. Now where is Sookie coming from remembering Godric and Eric and his other side on the rooftop all of a sudden? Is this the lame attempt to make us believe Sookie has feelings for Eric?

You can clearly see Bill's scheming face when he was trying to convince Sookie to try again. To restart anew. And Sookie lying to tell him that she wants to? Hmm. Do we finally have her brains intact and unscrambled?

I actually felt kinda sad when they were talking about their future if they were just normal. That really ended the relationship for me. Talking about something that you know would be impossible is clearly an indication of how things will never work.

Just like a virgin. Jesus is a V crack addict. How fitting. What's the significance of the mask? LaLa's hallucinations look like the gingerbread man/woman.

Jason and Crystal. Boring. So they think they can save hotshot all by themselves? Good luck, Super Kids.

Who was the other V addict football guy? Why did he have to be in the picture? Waste of air time.

Hoyt and Jessica back together! Oh wow, Hoyt offered himself? Would have been better if they had sex right then and there. Would be a real vamp-human make-out session. So Maxene was the one who set-up Summer and Hoyt. Why doesn't that surprise me.

Sam = over the top. What happened to turn him like this all of a sudden? What made him remember? Nothing but Joe Lee in a Sam suit. Now Tommy's scared of being alone? What?!

What's Tara trying to do now? Given, Eggs was killed by Jason. Eggs wanted to die, IMO. He was asking for it. His guilt was killing him bit by bit. Tara and Sam release their frustrations and inner devils by having sex. Great.

Holly was like the Mary Ann blonde version. Or even Miss Jeanette. Arlene looked great in her dream.

I love Terry for loving the baby. Good job for the baby holding on! Torture Arlene some more!

Supernatural sunscreen! LOL!

The Eric/RE face-off. Love the strut. Vast collection of meaningless shit. Now I know who I'm reminded of when I see Dennis O'Hare. Al Pacino. I hope they'd do a movie/series together.

I can't believe it was that easy for them to call it quits. How could RE believe Eric after what he did? Due to his bloodlust for power? All right! The supernatural sunscreen works! Fuckin' faeries! I feel for RE. He's like a child trapped in his 3 thousand-year-old self. I wonder what he was before becoming a vamp.

Eric and RE, the flying twins. So the Eric and Bill fight was just for show. Too bad. Well, at least it proves that Eric is NOT the evil one. I'm glad we got that cleared up somewhat, AB. Wow, finally Bill and Eric on the same side! Miracles do happen, even in AB land.

I so loved Alex's face when RE offered him to go first. "I'd love to." You can see that he really wants to. And the tender moment between Eric and Pam? Priceless. "You know I love you more when you're cold and heartless." We all know that Eric will be in Season 4, but I couldn't help but get weepy thinking this will be their last conversation... And the look he gave Sookie, touching her cheeks while gulping. That's affection right there. You can see his inner conflict, debating whether it was worth it. He was even stroking her hair while he was feeding, to ease her pain somewhat. Stoopie is really dumb if she doesn't see through his facade.

You've got to give it to Eric, for his willingness to sacrifice himself to defeat RE and his crazy I'm the King of the World plan. So it was Godric he was talking to, asking for strength and guidance. His Maker.

The finale is entitled Evil is Going On. This episode showed the characters' dark sides. Their ability to evoke fear in the beings surrounding them. To quote Yoda: Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Maybe after this season everyone has become Darth Vader?

And the look he gave Sookie, touching her cheeks while gulping. That's affection right there. You can see his inner conflict, debating whether it was worth it. He was even stroking her hair while he was feeding, to ease her pain somewhat. Stoopie is really dumb if she doesn't see through his facade.

I love this part as well! And the way he gently bit her before he started sucking her blood. He did EVERYTHING gently as opposed to RE. That is the most tender side I think Sookie has seen of Eric in TB. I'm sure when Sookie revives from this, she'll realize what Eric is doing. Can't believe we have to not only wait 2 weeks before the season finale, but we have to wait for next season to see how AE is written. Booooo!

Enjoying everyone's posts.

My two cents: I liked the episode. Stayed up late with the BFF to watch it after the Emmy's. I watched it twice.
 
- They never explained how Eric found RE at the museum, did they?. We know that vamps can track people if they have had their blood. However, I did not see any blood exchange between Eric and Russell.

- As much as I am a fan of Eric and RE, I did not entirely buy this immediate team-up for the fairy blood. Pretty much the last person on the planet that Russell should have trusted is Eric. Russell is too smart. Russell also switched pretty fast from tragedy-crazed lunatic to wanting to take over the world. And then, even with the silver handcuffs, why couldn't Russell just pull Eric back inside? He is 3 times Eric's age, and even feeling the effects of the cuffs and the sun, should have been strong enough to pull away, or? ... I don't know. It just came off a little too easy for me.

- I thought in the books that Pam was older than Bill, or? About 250 or 300 years old? If so, it looks like another Saint Bill thing, letting Bill take Pam in a fight. In the books, Pam is a good fighter, and leads the battle against the witches in book 4.

So not interested in the La-la / Jesus plot. So not.

Really thinking that Tara is getting around. Seems like when she feels bad she'll take up with the first available guy. Sam, then Eggs, then Franklin (pre-kidnap), then throws herself at Jason, now Sam again. At least Sam and Tara are kind of hot together.

Don't believe the Sam history. It is like they are trying so hard to manufacture a 'dark side' that they got carried away.

Like so many others have written, loved the emotion in Eric when he had to bite Sookie. And I even think I saw a little bit of acting on the AP side! She looked up at him with eyes that were saying, 'Eric, you're not really going to do this, please don't hurt me.' Like, she was almost expressive.

Still don't understand how ALL of Bill's blood has produced like one dream in season one and the little taste of Eric has a cult following for numbers.
- Bill is a young vampire 150 years old. Eric is 1000. Age determines the potency of the blood.

http://io9.com/5625929/true-blood-gives-a-great-neck-job-but-we-need-a-bit-more?skyline=true&s=i

Thanks for the link, fffbone. She summed it up well.

Thanks again, Mary!

This "Pro" almost had me peeing my pants.  "Pro: That might have been a little mean. Because in hindsight, I would totally enjoy a historical vampire flashback of Bill teaching third grade. 'NAW class, please acquire your penceeels. War're practasing our cursaavve penmanship tuhday. BILLY cease and deceit pulling thawt young ladies pig tails. You children are wasting your human lives with this tomfoolery!'"

Yeah Pey I thought that part was LOL.

I like the picture they show.  Look how Sookie is all sprawled out on the table.  RE looks like he just saw Santa.

That blood-sucking scene reminded me a lot of the blood-bond-forming in Rhodes. Out of necessity and without Sookie's consent, to pull a bluff on higher ranked vamps, no privacy in a private moment, Eric trying to make it as comfortable to Sookie as he can... oh and of course... Eric enjoying himself a little bit even if inappropriate;)

Great point SeraG, I hadn't thought of it that way!

Yes, very good point.

I actually had a nightmare about those damn talking voodoo dolls last night.  I knew I should have fast forwarded over that part.   I have a fear of dolls, clowns, and ventriloquist dummys.  That actually freaked me out.  I know it was supposed to be funny or something, but I hate that stuff.  I can't even watch those Chuckie movies.  I know I am a weenie.

Kim, I thought I was the only one.  I didn't have a nightmare, but I kept seeing them when I closed my eyes, especially the white one with the evil eyes and crazy pink hair.  I had to move a few of the figurines in my bedroom to another room.  The scene was also bugging me, because I couldn't remember for the life of me what the figures reminded me of.  I finally saw it mentioned in the comment section of the review Mary linked above.  Anyone watch Wonderfalls?  Remember the talking wax lion and the brass monkey?  At least those were funny.

Pro: And finally to back up that very angry rant...when you're used to getting crazy vampire sex on a regular basis from this show and then they cruelly and quickly take it all away (only to replace it with Couple's Car Therapy for Idiots),

"Couple's Car Therapy for Idiots" - Ooooh man, that is SO funny!!!

Overall, I liked this episode. LOVED Eric and Pam! But they so needed more time to tell the vamp plan/strategy and instead I got more Tara, Sam and Jason. I like the vampire story lines and they always seem to cut them short while the other story lines have plenty of time to cuddle on the sofa or visit the HS football field.

I thought Sam's bitchy rage scene (ya know the one where he called everyone in Merlotte's a bitch) was WAY over the top, where are they going with this...? It's too late in the season for this bitchy shit! I hope that whole Tommy refusing to take down orders on paper deal isn't the beginning of a rated R after school special about how he never learned to read. Or even worse - H.S. football teams addicted to V!! AB shouldn't be so snobby about Twilight if he's going to hint on a story line like this. Tweens! (I love Pam)

The Holly/Arlene witch craft bit was kinda creepy. Terry is the sweetest. Hoyt's Mom's MooMoo was priceless. Summer is funny. Hoyt and Jessica's bite scene was just gorgeous to look at with his red sweatshirt and her red hair and that bite. Awesome.

I can't believe the next episode is the last one and TB has all these loose ends to tie up with the Queen and RE and Alcide and Godric and Sookie and Eric and maybe even some amnesia. They should just skip the after sex cuddle with Sam and Tara ('cause you know AB wants to go there) and just get to good stuff. Who will give Sookie blood? I so wish it would be Eric, but I have lost all hope of any thing remotely similar to the book happening.

I want sweet Sam back.  A little bad ass if good but a mean SOB is never a plus.  Why can't he just be sweet?

I totally agree Momma. And like you I liked him with a little backbone..like when he rescued Tommy at the dog fight.

It's funny but when he first flipped out one thought I had was it was because he couldn't deal with his shithead brother and his crap.  Much like a parent who sucks it up and sucks it up with older children and then just looses it. 

What I was reading during my lunch break: http://hiddeneloise.livejournal.com/40150.html .  Once again, I have to thank Karla for introducing this blog to me.  Great insights on the part of the writer.  (Gotta get back to work now.)

I think turning Sam into a 'badass' is pretty ridiculous. They should keep the focus of badass-ery on the vamps - way more entertaining

Pey , Karla that was a good article.  Enjoyed that.

I liked this episode overall, especially the scenes with RE. haha and that ringtone!

As for the other scenes, out of all the character story lines, I can do without Arlene's story. I honestly don't care about that. The other ones are bearable. But Holly is growing on me. Even though the actress she cast doesn't look like a Holly to me.

We're going to get Rosemary's Baby. I'm going to have to reread to see how close they get. I did recently see the movie so I remember the main points and the movie was fairly faithful to the book.

You know they could have just let Arlene's character join the FOTS and start with the hate crimes.  We still could have seen sweet Terry, who has been phenomenal this season, and she could have alienated him and her kids as well as her friends.  I HATE the Evil Sam bit.  In the books, which I know mean nothing to AB, Sam- even when he was being  a dick- was always there for Sookie as a friend.  She never truly entertained relationship thoughts with him, too weird.

But noooo.  We HAVE to feel sorry for Arlene and we HAVE to think that Sam is an evil douche bag drunk and we HAVE to think that one of the most endearing characters of the series is an inbred meth cooking blight on society.

And you know what?  I am fucking offended at this point. Because THIS is what AB thinks of Southerners and Louisianans.  My mother lives in THE spot that Bon Temps would lie and those people are not like that.

So I guess all Southerners, deep down, are just trash and shit.  If I wasn't so dedicated to the series I would quit. OF course I would have to go else where for Eric. 

hm. Okay finally watching #11. Let me preface this with I went to the eye doctor today and I have a hole (A HOLE!) in my effin' retina! The doctor asked me if I'd experienced any trauma. Well, aside from just being told I had a hole (A HOLE!) in my retina, the only other visual assault I could think of was True Blood...

Don't leave me alone with this idiot immigrant.

ha boring..this is how I know Alan Ball sucks as a writer...how do you make Lafayette boring? So cringing...

aw, I like Crystal.

ew. she's supposed to marry her half brother? ew...

"ultimate vampire dream" - this is so weird. The whole daywalker concept. I guess this exists in other vampire mythology? I know it rears its head in the fanfiction but in CH it's never been put forth as something any of the vamps ever aspired to

SHOOT ME NOW Dimwit Tara is crying for Eggs? WTF?

Sam called terry a shell=shocked mother fucker. ha ha

he called them bitches oh yes. Evil Sam = Evil Wayne Brady

who are these teen football players? does this make any sense?

NOOOOO! Maxine is responsible for Summer? OHHHH!

I HATE TARA! HATE HATE HATE!

Heck, does this get interesting?

is there any reason for Jason to be tormenting this high school kid? is he like sexually attracted to him? WTF is this?

Oh! I'm gonna go get some gelatinous goop from the cookie jar. And I'm not hitting pause

WACO? THE WHOLE TOWN! LET THE WHOLE TOWN GO!

outside of Fangtasia...why can't they hire real graffiti artists to do graffiti on buildings?

OMG...ASkars needs to just star in the remake of Baywatch. He loooooooks gooooood in the sunlight

having said that, this show was kinda dull. I didn't even get any good oneliners. bleh

I liked the emotion coming from Eric when he comforted Pam and then had to face biting Sookie and trying to somehow comfort before biting and while he did it.

Yeah, he's so good. AP did her best performance when she was 'unconscious' from blood loss. No shrill screaming, no unusual movements

haha Zinnea! AP was actually pretty good in Season 1. But as of Season 3, it seems like her acting abilities are limited. I'm hoping it's just the script lines she's given but I doubt it.

Non-Snark Alert: I'm actually going to say that I found AP's acting to not suck as much in this episode. I'll likely watch it again (I started viewing it rather late, after 2 glasses of wine and an eye doctor diagnosis of "hole in your retina" so I wasn't that good of a television viewer.  ASkars performance of Eric is always good. Its just sad the way its the only dependable thing.

Karla mentioned this but I had to weigh in with my own f*cktarded thoughts.

There are different types of humor, right?  (Ha ha. I took a comedy course and I kid you not, I have a comedy text book). Anyway, there's this idea that there are different types of humor and they don't always mesh well together.  You could enjoy a Woody Allen movie but what would you think if John Ritter were suddenly there also doing slapstick and tripping? You'd think: WTF?

So, I've yet to get my head around what the hell True Blood is attempting to be. The fact that they threw in there the fact that Yvette is a cardiologist in her home country? I'm sure the inane writers were sitting around trying to punch up the humor and that struck them as an easy  gag point, Yvette gets one up on Pam. My take is that its soooo WTF it makes no sense and is not funny b/c it makes so little sense.

The show that has the poignant scene on the rooftop between Godric and Eric.

The show that has Pam's snarky biting comments, Eric's all too infrequent bits of sarcasm is not the same show that has the easy gag "laugh" of Yvette being a cardiologist in her home country.

I know I'm probably sounding like a maniac, but this really really bothered me.

I think it just kind of underscores the whole problem with the show: identify crisis.

Good point!  It does have an identity crisis of the highest order... just to get serious for a minute, OMG, Mari!  You have a hole in your retina?  Is this dangerous or a normally occurring thing?  Are you OK, hon'?  (Just to bring a little levity -  You better be careful or SM will try to stick a fang in it!!  lol )

As far as E/S/B goes, I think this episode had some positive elements.  I am always leery of my judgement on all things B/S because I'm so emotionally invested.  (BTW, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was upset that Eric threw Sookie in the dungeon with no explanation last week.  I was so angry I couldn't sleep and had to read some "Oh No, Vampire Bill" just to calm down.)   I'm worried that I read too much into things.  But I feel totally justified this time around, because even my husband reacted when Bill was trying to lie to and manipulate Sookie in the car.  He full out snorted when Bill said "At least I'm not like Eric"... and that's saying something because for obvious reasons he - my husband - isn't all that fond of Eric!!

Bill was caught out in at least one lie or omission of truth so that's good.  Unfortunately, AB has worked it so that he has wiggle room.  Of course, Bill hasn't been cast in a completely bad light. I'm sure he'll have all kinds of arguments and reasonings for his actions.

I was pissed that the E/B fight was staged - let's face it, if RE could whoop Eric's ass then Eric should be able to whoop Bill's.  There is no way he should be able to hold his own really.  It's just silly.  And making Pam younger than Bill is another attempt to give Bill some cred.  PIsses me off.  She is supposed to be older, a great fighter and she has Eric's blood running through her veins.  She should also be able to whoop Bill.  She isn't a Ravenscroft anymore, though, so maybe they've changed her backstory?

LittleLou, you mentioned Pam should be older and RE should be able to drag Eric back inside.  Totally thought the same thing!  All the inconsistencies are soooooo annoying.

Loved the emotion from Eric as you all did.  When he kissed Pam's forehead I got all teary!  I totally buy their relationship.  I think they're friends, or at least on very good terms, in real life and it shows.  There is affection between them and they use it very well.  Also, FINALLY they show Eric showing some tenderness towards Sookie.  Too little too late, though, IMO.  How they get from here to AE I'll never know.  Still they don't care about making sense, do they?!

The rest of it was a snore fest.  Sam is soooo harrrrrrrd - lol!!  It's just dumb.  Tara - dumb!  Jason - dumb!  Yes, does he want to do Kitch Maynard? why is he so obsessed with that kid?!!  Hotshot - shudder!!

I LOVE Judy's idea that Arlene will have a storyline like "Rosemary's Baby".  Totally agree that's where they're going.  I'm concerned how they're going to portray Wiccans, though.  Holly is creepy.  She's helpful, but then comes across creepy.  Do you think she's actually trying to help the "demon seed" implant, or was she truly trying to help Arlene abort it?  Last season they were mentioning the devil/Satan in regards to the goats head and Maryanne.  I know that's most people's cultural reference for evil, but if they start linking Wicca and paganism and the feminine divine with Satan, I'll be pissed.  That's not what it's about.  They don't even believe in the devil!

Oh, and I love that the only emotionally stable person on the show with a modicum of self awareness and maturity is Andy Bellefleur!  His response to Tara when she told him she knew about Eggs was honest, emtionally wide open and beautiful... go figure!!

What's your favorite quote? Here's mine:  “My, My! To lose the one man I ever loved because you miss mommy and daddy- well that is a kick in the pants!” LOL!

http://www.trueblood-online.com/season-3/season-3-quotes/blood-bytes-favorite-true-blood-quotes-%E2%80%93-episode-3-11-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%9Cfresh-blood%E2%80%9D/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheVault-Trueblood-onlinecom+(The+Vault+-+TrueBlood-Online.com)

http://www.sookieverseblog.com/2010/09/01/so-fresh-so-mean/

I'm gonna download Eric's ringtone. Hahaha!

Did anyone notice that Sookie did nothing more after stopping Pam?  Didn't Yvetta chain her up and then steal the money?  I mean Sookie had her silver mace and yet even though Lover Boy has been sprayed in the face, Sookie does not do it to Pam too.  I may be grasping at threads but she didn't hurt Pam, not much.

And then she defended Eric in the car counseling session AFTER getting locked in the dungeon.  This give me hope.

What's your favorite quote?

Eric to Russell- “Apparently you wanted my father’s crown for your vast collection of meaningless shit!”

I especially like how that one bites at the end:)

Tommy to Sam:  “Look at yourself drunk and yellin’. You’re nothin’ but Joe Lee in a Sam suit!”

Yeah, that about sums up his "oh so believable" character transformation into the hard, dangerous guy!  Sheesh, it's stupid!!!

those three are all good quotes

Marianne, I hope your retina gets better. Anything that you have to do for treatment?

Lianne - you are right, I have no idea either where they are going with this Jeckyll and Hyde (spelling?) Sam. Unless, in AB world, Shifters can have some sort of Jeckyll and Hyde syndrome.

so maybe they've changed her backstory?

Didn't the self-aggrandizing queen, eh, I mean Alan Ball, make her a prostitute in the CD disk set added character interview footage?  Jackass.

All the inconsistencies are soooooo annoying.

Yes they are.

Still they don't care about making sense, do they?!

Nope, they really don't. And it shows.

The rest of it was a snore fest.

Hm...What were we talking about?

Oh, and I love that the only emotionally stable person on the show with a modicum of self awareness and maturity is Andy Bellefleur!  His response to Tara when she told him she knew about Eggs was honest, emtionally wide open and beautiful... go figure!!

Liann, I'm soooooo with you on this!!!!!OOOH! ANDY!!! I AM SOOOOOO ON TEAM ANDY!!! I LOVES ANDY!!!!  Chris Bauer is awesome!

  Thanks for typing up quotes. I'll do a little copy/paste action...

 This gives me hope.  

Dallas, it is hopeworthy. I think its like they know the direction they need to go in but they can't figure out a coherent way so it'll be WTF after WTF until we get there. The TB writers "needed" to set up in this animosity filled situation--so they could have their drama and whatever it is they think they've "achieved", so they drummed up all these Eric/Pam infractions against Sookie --at the cost of Eric's character and Sookie's intelligence and any semblance of the relationships established in the books.

Now, for Season 4, to make the storyline work--assuming they're looking to hook up E/S-- they need to backtrack, bigtime on all the ill will. And, since the writers aren't qualified to write a recipe for Jello, they're gonna just gloss over stuff and be vague and intimate things but not really be clear about it so they don't paint themselves into a corner, because I don't think they think ahead.  So, if they're not plotting it out ahead, they need to keep options open.

I know I'm being harsh but-frankly - and Dallas, I'd love to hear your take on this- personally, I've written this ginormous fanfic story -I put so much thought into setting up believable storylines, and crafting well-developed characters.  I respect my readers' time and intelligence and I wouldn't want to just put crap out there with my name on it. And no one's paying me a penny to do it. I'm kind of appalled that these TB writers make the money that they do and feel comfortable putting out the shitty scripts that they do. Unlike Charlaine who is making it all up as she goes along, and so she's got to grapple with the creative side of developing a whole universe, these tools have the damn books to work from! There's no reason that the show should be so totally devoid of worthy character portrayals and soulless, with its only consistency being the constant stream of WTF and DC moments.

Marianne, I hope your retina gets better. Anything that you have to do for treatment?

Thanks Kris. I'm just being angsty. It's probably (hopefully) nothing.  A lot of advances with laser surgery, so maybe.... I'm not a happy camper about the idea. LOL. I might be deflecting some anger on True Blood. The eye doctor asked me about if I'd experienced any traumas lately and I swear to GOD True Blood was the first thing to come to mind.

 Unless, in AB world, Shifters can have some sort of Jeckyll and Hyde syndrome.  

Probably. In a world without fairies anything is possible.

Hoyt and Jessica were hot.

I’m about to put an end to your insignificant existence. This is not the time to be obscure.”

OMG, the way Eric said "family" - cause an interesting reaction in anyone else? just me?

Did I think there weren't any quoteS?

“I’m excited to destroy you.” 

“Don’t beg for mercy. That’s such a bore.”

You are a lump of muscle with a blood grudge. You got lucky. You couldn’t possibly comprehend what I’m after. 

Denis O'Hare is so effing talented. Actually anything out of his mouth amuses me.

Russell to Eric (impatient to kill him): We should begin.

Okay, I'm observing something here:

So, we've established that TB Eric is kind of emo, not exactly SVM Eric, maybe DITF Eric.

The scene with Russell. Russell lays his hand on Eric's cheek and he's ready to kill him. Eric's posing the daywalking dream out there but really - Russells insane with his Talbott-in-a-cookie-jar - so I don't think Eric can really make a good judgment call on whether or not RE will go for it, but he shows no fear. Nothing. It could have gone the other way. RE could have decided just to off him at that moment. But Eric's being calculating, charming, strong.

Did Maxine Fortenberry get fatter?

what is this storyline? Maxine...Summer..."cute as pigs"..."I can't even reach things in my own closet without a grabber"..."we are not finished. not by a longshot."

Really, Maxine? You're not? How is this storyline not finished? Does it make any effing sense? WTF?

ANDY, I LOVE YOU!

I used to drink hot sauce straight out of the bottle. That was a good time. 

I HATE TARA! HATE. HATE. HATE.

ANdy, got his picture in the paper and a "big big promotion"?

Yeah, Tara? really? That's what it looks like to you? You effing delusional nutcase. Crying over some waste of space you screwed for five days, tops? Dumbass

OMG! I'm so excited! I just learned you can edit posts! WOW! THat's awesome! No more typos on Tangler, EVER!

" I will miss him...for the rest...of ...my life"

With any luck, Tara, you'll be dead second episode in Season 4

***fingers crossed***

Does it not strike Sam how bad for business kicking the customers out of the bar is?

Whats this strange fantasy land Sookie and Bill are dreaming up? LOL. I had to keep listening. I thought Stoopie said they'd have Eric over for dinner but then I realized it was Tara. I have to admit having Eric over for dinner seemed like an awesome idea.

LMFAO! How did I miss the fact that they drove in Sookie's shitbox? HA HA HA!

Tara and Sam had sex? Tommy's like making a bomb?  the things you miss when you don't give a fucking damn.

“Oh. That’s reassuring. A testimonial from the mendacious Mr. Compton”

OH, LMAO. I love Russell hating on Bill! It is AWESOME. I think I have to rewatch some of those mid-season episodes.

It's just so amusing to read all that.  Love  when you do this.

My slow descent...I really hate this show! Every week...as I spend upward of THREE HOURS watching a one hour show, all I can think is "no, not again. what's wrong with me?"

I don't have cable so I'm always the slow one of the group...

It makes me so sad....I think this bad tv-viewing blew a hole in my retina, too...

Mari, AMEN!!  About your comment for the writers:  I get so worked up about my story because I actually worry what my readers will think about the characters, the personalities, my choices and the sub-plots.  It seems like the TB writers are just like 'Aw, what the fuck?  Sure that works.'  I always want to punch them.

There are some very talented writers on fanfic.  Let us sit down together for a few hours so we can fix this shitpile of a mess you have made TB.  You know what?  Just fire your "writers" and give us jobs.  I kill myself teaching high schoolers all day long, I could certainly sit down and write stories for my vampires all day long for a fat paycheck.

For your health concerns:  OMG.  Is it affecting your vision?  Are they planning on doing some type of surgery on that?  I hope everything works out.

My favorite quote of the episode:

"You can have my onion rings, if you want."

Damn right, Andy.  Tara needs to shut the hell up and eat a freaking onion ring.  Fried things make things better.

Eric was so damn hot!! Not like this is a new development but I just about die for him.  My husband makes fun of me so bad.  I joked with him the other day about buying this HUGE tv for our bedroom.  He said,"  Yeah, so you can stare at Alexander Skarsgard's Gracious Plenty in 60 something inches?"

I shall keep the faith.  Rant over--for now.

It seems like the TB writers are just like 'Aw, what the fuck?  Sure that works.'  I always want to punch them.

YES! It comes down to this total lack of regard, lack of respect! I mean, how effing stupid do they think we all are? If you're gonna pool wool over, don't go for the ones who read SciFi, fantasy, and paranormal stuff. Those are the last ones who are gonna buy your fucktarded illogical nonsense!

"You can have my onion rings, if you want."

LULZ. I think this is mine:

I used to drink hot sauce straight out of the bottle. That was a good time. 

You know what?  Just fire your "writers" and give us jobs.  

AMEN! I know. I've been writing since last December. I'm like. I could do this for a paycheck!

Fried things make things better.

Dallas, I love your quote too.

One of the best parts of this episode is Eric's ring tone. haha! And the color of the phone. i mean you'd expect Eric to have a black cell phone but it's white and the ring tone is Ain't We Got Fun. haha!

I liked the look on RE's face when he heard the ringtone.

right seriously, it was totally unexpected. when i heard it i thought it was the dead security guard's phone. lol!

but we finally see how sookie comes to kick bill to the curb. he has pulled waaaay too many shinanigans on her to be forgiven. hoyt's mom is crazy, she sent a happy sunshine robot after her son in attempt to get him back in her grips, but its too late now maxine! he's had jessica's blood, she didn't put a spell on him before but now she has and you can's do anything about it XD...lol...i really hate maxine...and i think arlene getting stuck with that baby is karma for being such a bigot and narrow minded psychopath, god is punishing her for, so he is going to torture her mentally with this "seed of renee" HA!!!

the look on RE's face is priceless, followed by the look on Eric's face. haha! At first I thought the song was "I'm Walking on Sunshine."

I'm excited to see how B/S breakup will play out. He really was trying to fight from being thrown out of the house in Season finale preview. As for Arlene's character, I would've rather have her shown as the bigot than Sam as an angry person. Arlene's character would fit the angry bigot better. Sam being angry is just NOT believable to me.

I'm walking on sunshine would certainly have been perfect.

Has anyone noticed this?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs319.snc4/41274_156109424402322_117954748217790_502483_1457397_n.jpg

Prophetic much? 

I finally watching it. It was pretty good. I FF'd through the a lot of the scenes to get to the vampy stuff. The plan was pretty clever. Loved the moment between Pam & Eric. KB was amazing actually. She's just too good.

wow Karla! What a find... i think the directors are being cheeky here! I love finds like that!!

Prophetic much?  

i loveds this scene, he was so hesitant to bite her even tho he really wants to since day one...this shows that he really isnt the heartless viking that only cared about his revenge and was willing to risk anything, even sookeh, but what is wrong with the pic? i'm a little slow, if you dont mind explaining...

Lileeli, i was wondering at first too... check out that green arrow pointing at some graffiti smeared onto Fangtasia's wall in the background...

Finally got to watch this episode last night. WTF? Every time the vamps came on it cut away to some crappy scene involving Tara weeping over Eggs, boring Jason and the teenagers stuff or nasty Sam. When is AB going to realise that the vamps are the main reason for watching. Even Alcide would have been a welcome distraction. This show is going down the pan fast.

Totally agree, Diane.  I could stand the side stories - marginally - if they focused most of the time and attention on the vamps.  But alas, no...

the side story on jessica is much welcomed...but tara weeping over eggs and the whole andy thing, and the whole jason thing is quite annoying...esp the stuff dealing with arlene and he unwanted baby, exactly hows does that fit into the grand scheme of things...other than introducing holly as the wiccan