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I did a seesmic about this today: http://seesmic.com/v/fZKrNnEsk2
Australia's GDP is >$650 billion. Aboriginals get less than 0.5% of that as welfare. How much of your house would you want back if stolen?
How much of their house are other Aussies prepared to give back?
watching the ABC
dek it should be up to aussies to decide. it should be up to the ICC imho.
sorry it SHOULDN'T be up to Aussies, I meant.
Wish that Nelson hadn't waffled so much
Yeah, Nelson ruined it a bit
Cam, it'll never get that far will it?
when someone commits or benefits from a crime, they don't get to decide what their penalty is. That's why we have a justice system.
But the current people didn't commit the crime. Sons pay for father's sins?
the question isn't "will it?" but "should it?" What kind of people are we? Do we avoid the issue? Is that who Australia is? Is this our value system?
I'm not convinced it should
the first aboriginal has been awarded compensation for being part of the stolen generation http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6937222.stm
dek, no, we didn't commit the crime, but we are benefiting FROM the crime. If a gangster buys a house with drug money, and he goes to jail, the courts will take the house from the kids and sell it.
Every non-aboriginal person in this country is benefiting from those crimes.
buying stolen goods is a crime
twitter talk about the apology http://terraminds.com/twitter/query?query=australia+sorry&submit=search+in+updates
Then shouldn't England have some accountability?
Absolutely they should.
I would like an ICC hearing to determine the outcome.
And you know that won't happen.... it would line up the rest of the Commonwealth nations
I watched the apology at my son's school, which is an infants school. The kids are aged 3-7. They sat there pretty rapt, which I put down to the fact that kids are terrified of losing their parents. Yet our past parliaments enacted laws to make it possible for thousands of kids to be ripped from their families.
Acknowledging that is a start. Now let's haul these people out of poverty and make their culture more than a curiosity,
I agree Simon.
yeah, i think we should focus on the future, not try and find people to lash out at when they are already dead. it's spiteful and irresponsible to encourage a public backlash when people are trying to make amends.
I'm tired of hearing non-aboriginal Australians blame the state of the aboriginal culture on the aboriginals and not realize that the way they have been treated over the last 200 years has left them in a state where they are, perhaps, unable to function like we want them to (which is like a non-aboriginal person would).
dpn, paying compensation for past crimes isn't a 'backlash'. It's justice.
should obama and all the people who vote for him be punished for wanting to change from what bush did? i don't think so
no but america should be punished for the crimes it has committed, in Iraq, in Latin America, in Indonesia, etc.
while people in the Western countries continue to make excuses for the immoral and brutal acts committed in our names, we can never truly bear the title of 'civilized'.
no one can.
so let's just punish for the hell of it eh?
i think compensation should be used to help the people who need it now. the aboriginals who are not as well off as whiteys. not to punish people who want to help.
i'm always surprised to hear the most liberal of people want blood so badly.
blood?
more interested in punishment rather than rebuilding
twitter api down again?
they are connected. you can't 'rebuild' without genuine compensation. You can call that 'punishment' if you like, but it's really just compensation. It isn't about 'blood' or 'punishment'. It's about justice and integrity.
omfg.
Wow!
That makes my stomach turn
Civilised world eh?
ahh it's a parody... still in poor taste
Thanks for the context
awful parody
