test.我可以在这里说中文吗？

sorry ,tangler donot support chinese

nope, Korean neither

That's hardly surprising...how many chinese or korean speaking sites do you know that also support English?  

Of course if you now show me some that can,  I'll have serious egg on my face. 

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/

there's 2 for ya

Hah, fair enough, I shall eat my words. 

a good friend of mine is a reporter for the Korea Herald.  She's Korean, and fluent in both English and Korean, also Spanish.  She says that most Korean websites have an English alternative.

tangler supports arabic but not chinese?

It seems only in the topic title tho, right celticagent?

so what charset to asian countries use? and how do you make a normal english site "asian-friendly"?

UTF-8 will give you the highest amount of character support including asian language characters.   As for the making a site "asian-friendly" I'm not really sure as Ruby on Rails is 'out of the box' language friendly, so you could always re-write tangler in that =P.

Yeah we could rewrite Tangler in Ruby on Rails, but we wanted it to be scalabile.
We should be supporting UTF-8, I suspect that one of the software layers isn't handling this correctly. Will need some investigation.

Ok I have identified the problem that was preventing UTF-8 encoding from working for messages. It will be resolved in the next realease.

Chinese will be supported at that point, probably a couple of weeks until we drop in a new release.

Just thought I'd throw it out there and see if it stuck.  As for the scalability, I'm hoping twitter, which has really become the icon for what people are looking for in scalability works out.  I know that other than a few hiccups, and mainly with the darn index page, iStalkr is at 200K records in one table and performs just fine, on what is right now a pretty low powered server.  This next week we'll be moving it over to a real server, and will actually be optimizing our database and code for better performance.

 So in other words, I'm hoping that I can totally prove you wrong in the scalability of RoR =P

I was just stiring the pot with the scale jibe. The reality is most startups never need to scale beyond a couple of beafy servers, so RoR is a great platform if it lets you develop faster.

As for Twitter, that will be insteresting to see if they can solve their problems

Yeah, it's an awesome web dev tool, and I'm hoping twitter can get things worked out, I really like the service, but I've been rather put off by its downtime lately, I'm not quite a RoR fanatic yet where I can ignore all the problems =P. 

I'm wondering how you guys keep your performance problems rather low.  I mean I tend to use tangler on off hours, but I can imagine almost realtime data like this has got to be a pain to manage quickly, and while there have been some times when I yell at the site for not loading quick enough, it isn't as bad as a lot of other sites.

All of our real-time data borrows techniques used in large scale enterprise java development. We use to asyncronise message queues for pushing events around the system.

Lots of performance testing, each release goes though a setup of performance tests. Lots of our initial load issues were comming from the database, performancing testing was very helpfully in highlighting those issues. The next big issue for us is the javascript bloat, page load times.

i don't understand the "popularity" of twitter.  I really don't care what you are doing now and I don't want to see regular updates

We've now got support for foreign languages. Here's the phrase "I can eat glass" in a few languages (pulled from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html ):

• 我能吞下玻璃而不伤身体。(Chinese)
• 나는 유리를 먹을 수 있어요. 그래도 아프지 않아요 (Korean)
• 私はガラスを食べられます。それは私を傷つけません。(Japanese)

my mileage appears to vary... I get all ????? for the various character sets... do I need to adjust settings somewhere in the browser?

Of course I can still use my high school Latin ....

which browser are you using Bric?

Firefox 2.0.0.3

What characters were you trying to type / paste in?

Talking about your post above:

• 我能吞下玻璃而不伤身体。(Chinese)
• 나는 유리를 먹을 수 있어요. 그래도 아프지 않아요 (Korean)
• 私はガラスを食べられます。それは私を傷つけません。(Japanese)

I'm getting a time out  from http://www.columbia.edu  ... off to try in Explorer...

That's appearing correctly for me - so you have ??? there?.

What have you got set in your FF menu under View > Character Encoding?

Yes, all  ??? for me.... Character Encoding is set to western (ISO 8859-1) but it won't let me switch to unicode... off to see If I can find out how to do so...

Do the characters on this page appear correctly for you - http://blog.roodo.com/onion_club/archives/cat_109038.html ?

No ... I've managed to get ff changed over to Unicode but the linked page is all ? as welll

Nope... none of the settings appears to work...I've got to call it quits for a bit... I'll goto Mozilla's site and see if I can find there how to get it to work tomorrow morning... If not I'll be back here... (not that its important to me per really but when I get a thread to pull I have to pull it.... some defect in my genes I guess)

No problem

Just before I run I signed on to Windows as my alter ego..... Here I've got encoding set to Unicode (UTF-8)..and I get all boxes... <not ?>

I'll Check back tomorrow with where I've got to...

Thanks

I see ?s, (FF 2.0.0.4 + Western ISO-8859-1 + Windows XP Home)

Don't you need to have the language packs installed?

Otherwise it'll appear as ?'s

That could be it

Thank's Marty.....That does appear to be it.... language packs are an  option on XP and looks like it was not part of  the default set-up given with my Tablet.  To install you just need to select option from XP control panel for Regional and Language settings which then calls for inserting XP Service Pack 2 CD...since it looks like it will put 230 Mb or more on my tablet  I'm passing on it.

I don't have the luxury of a CD.. stupid Dell

I've been meaning to backup my data and install XP Pro from a disc for a while now, but y'know.. hassle = delay 

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做得好！(well done!)

I typed these in Chinese,  

Hey Alan, check this group  out....

Cool eh?

yes, I got it, thank you!

No worries