Sorry, moving to another ustream account

Hey everyone!

Taa daa!

I can't hear mick?

You can only hear duncan

Starting again

There you go

Can hear you now

The Joker and The Crow

*phew*

The Crow looks better

Mattell Suing Scrabulous - a facebook app exactly the same as scrabble.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-baer/stop-mattel-from-removing_b_82717.html

Facebook missing out on Money;

http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2008/01/facebooks-real.html
 

All we need is two more and we'll have enough to form a KISS cover band in hell

LOL!

hahahaha

Hi Nick G!!

Heyas

 

How people find apps: PLUG http://www.liubinskas.com/blog/2008/01/21/10-ways-people-find-new-web-apps/

yeah, things often remind me of the Cambreonic Explosion.

Cam-Moronic Explosion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

Ahhhh Thanks Dunc. Much needed explanation

(Skype sounds are confusing me)

viva la cambrian revolucion
 

LOL! Love it!!

Nice look, Cam

Is that your "thinking" face?
 

http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/

Google already has too much information about people

Open Social video;

http://www.standingmobile.com/google-open-social-dont-believe-the-hype/

"“Open Social” sounds a lot like an “Open Marriage” – on the surface some may think this sounds fun but after thinking about it for a minute you quickly realize it’s a bad idea.'... from the above link

what about myles eftos? (on Open Social) my guess would be that he knows a bit about this..

 

so how do you keep watching the video at the top of the comments and then comment at the bottom??? can there be a way to keep the video at the top???

 

@jodiem they have super high screens.. ;o)

 

@velvet Myles is anti anything with social in it?

DataPortability needs to be made invisible enough that the average joe doesn't even see it happening. It needs to "just work".
 

they hold on to my data and do shit with it i'm not comfortable with

 

I have the video on UStream and the comment in another tab

 

Yeah, me too jodiem

DataPortability doesn't work because my information is no longer in my control

 

yeah but Bronwen you're Ms Popularity..

 

;o)

@Herne you think? The idea behind DP is that you *are* in control. You pick. You choose.

(and a chick)

Isn't that an issue of education? (re beacon and the 'general population')

@trib: The only SURE way of being in control is to keep your personal info close to your vest... On your local machine and encrypted

@jodeim - yep, need to work on that, but watching Duncan is not advised for long periods

 

Yeah, I agree with Bronwen... Say no once, don't bug me ever again

Oops

@herne correct. But then you are unable to take part in anything. You become a digital hermit.

You can block apps I think, Duncan

ooh, touchy topic

@trib: I take part in all sorts of things... but I still don't give out my personal info online

Very touchy.

I note Nik's blog is down today

 

@herne thus you have no identity anyone can relate to? Maybe...
 

http://www.nik.com.au/

LOL! GO Cam!!

Oooo Cameron.

 

Get the scoop

@trib: And nothing that can be tracked...

could always talk about the dreamhost incident.. oops.. ;o)

 

Look at the website for cripes sake

ERROR

wordpress

stuffed :o\
 

Omnidrive on RWW

Here's the problem. It doesn't work and yet money is still being taken.

No one is wishing Nik ill (except maybe Phil).

Nik is doing himself no favors by not being especially public.

Not me Monty. I care about the users.

According to Wikipedia... it's gone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnidrive
 

Some user comments in the Omnidrive group

I don't blame Nik for not being communicative with the media. If he's keeping the users in the dark, that's a bit more dodgy.

Not going to happen

@m0nty Agreed. NC should be talking to the users. It would only take one blog post.

hey, SilkCharm!

yay!

Woudl any other company have had this little media investigation?

Users are not being protected by being informed by the voices they trust.

That Phil, has been the most interesting aspect of the whole thing

Media has been silent

Its dead simple to fact check and no one's doing it.

Agree that TechCrunch not covering it sucks, but is understandable given the conflict.  I do think it's interesting that no other bloggers are really investigating it.

To some degree it shows how light the broad blogging is. It's not investigative journalism.

Get an account. Upload a file. Look at the properties and see that files are 0 Bytes in size. Why? Because the disk space has run out - months ago.

Exactly Cam

I'm sure Mike is a busy man with many fingers in many pies.

Interesting debate here. What a great convergence of two wonderful products: UStream and Tangler.

Come on Monty - you were a journo once - not acceptable

I can understand if Techcrunch won't cover it.... but what about all the other blogs?

Only RRW skimmed it
 

I saw Arrington's Seesmic. He basically endorsed Phil's accusations by not engaging them.

wait, what's not acceptable?

I needed to know that...

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/joyent-suffers-major-downtime-due-to-zfs-bug/

Arrington not covering it

I did.


 

Arrington's Seesmic

no Laurel. you're spot on.

Thanks dekrazee1

5 days ago Duncan? In a story about Joyent? That's called "buried".

np

Nice one Dek- that's the one Cam.

People accuse Arrington of bias whenever he covers his own companies. If he had covered the Omnidrive story then he would no doubt have been accused of going too soft. So he can't win.

That's the problem with putting data "in the cloud" ... you have to trust that people aren't going to muck about with it

http://www.tangler.com/forum/omnidrive-talk/topic/31346

http://www.seesmic.com/Standalone.html?video=vSaFbzlhJe

That's Michael's explaination

Also, is he supposed to report private convos with Nik or publish private corporate documents? He deserves his privacy as well. It's not as if the story went unreported.

Its fair enough that Michael doens't want to cover it.

But is it OK for Techcrunch not to?
 

what about people like us - we have a nearly dead mac, the backup got toasted because of thee hardware problem with the mac, so we have no backups here now. We are hopeful to retrieve our data from one of our two drives, but otherwise we hope the best of what we have in photos etc is still on flickr..

 

DVDs are your friend

that's a question for Duncan, Phil

It has happened before- think of mblog.com thousands of users lost their blogs overnight :o( nasty stuff

Whoa. What happened to the UStream vid?

Duncan must be playin with it

good point Laurel

http://www.horsepigcow.com/2007/12/16/tragedy-of-the-commons-lane-hartwell-vs-richter-scales/
 

That's pretty darn cool Duncan!

hehehe I thought the same thing Cam

It's getting late here in Canada-land, so I'll have to pick up the rest of this via my iTunes feed tomorrow... Have a good one down there in Aus

Let it snow!!

( I think Duncan is trying to distract us)
 

I'm sorry Duncan, that isn't coverage

LOL!! That was funny Dunc!

It can be independently investigated and it has not been.

or up and down like a whore's drawers

 

*laughing* I do love you Laurel ;o)

 

you're just so classy.

Cam = john Laws ;o)

hehehehe Who's doing those thought bubbles??

I remember that interview with Phil Burgess

 

Do we want to talk about financial markets impact on startups?

OUCH!

My ears!!
 

ouch

Who can find anything nice abt Telstra?

why ould you do that if it's not true..?

monty my interview with burgess was six months or more before I had any commercial relationship with telstra

i like the reorietnation of the corp culture to customer focus not service focus..

Watching the vid right now is like watching an aquarium Dek likes

fair enough Cam

wasn't criticising, I thought you went in quite hard on that i/v

why is dunc on the ceiling?

 

yay!

 

URL?

Ohh!!! Congrats monty!

http://www.tinfinger.com

so upload better CC-licensed pictures to Flickr

I respect copyright

I don't understand what CC-licenses are and how to do them

awesome :o)

tinfinger won't load for me

SilkCharm, a real life photo of you would look far better than that silly pixie

me neither

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/22/eroticism-comes-to-microblogging-with-boobik/

Eroticism Comes to Microblogging with Boobik?

Mark Hendrickson

11 comments »

The tenets of Web 2.0 are not without their pornographic, or otherwise erotic, applications. We’ve covered PornoTube and EroShare, both of which are sites for user-generated porn. Now we’ve come across a site called Boobik? (yes, with a question mark in its name, and no, NSFW). If PornoTube is a YouTube of porn and EroShare is a Flickr of porn, then perhaps it’s best to describe Boobik? as a Twitter of porn.

wonder if they'd take my photo

oh ok I  like tinfinger now

can someone who knows something about Skitch let us know when it's coming out on Windows?

I second jodiem!!

just get a mac

Yep, not sure Jodiem. I've asked, them. I can ask now

@jodiem I've got Keith Lang on Skype atm, I'll ask

I'll ask Cris and Brian.

I'll be stuffed if I ever move, because I'm probably more famous for where I live than anything else.

 

I agree with SilkCharm... I'm not changing from dek to rai. dek is as real to me as rai

@cameronreilly @mick thanks, I will use it in a heartbeat if it's on windows

@jodiem skitch rocks

@silkcharm I agree, I like being a bit mysterious online

Keith Lang
2:00 PM
cant say - but we're working on it

I wish people who had Skitch would stop telling me how great it is

but everyone knows silkcharm = Laurel Papworth

 

nah they dont velvet

 

JavaRanch has always had real name encouraged or at least use a plausible fake.

a quick google search shows who you really are

@cameron 2 years ago no way.

@laurel well everyone who matters does ;o) and if not there's always goggle.

This whole using your name thing is a new thing to me... all this while it has been nicknames!

erm google...

Its a tipping point we are in where so much of us is appearing online and we CAN be identified.... I prefer to be me and go for it. Stay in control of my identity by setting the agenda.

agree Phil -  but has it risks

yeh

I hear ya SilkCharm

Until 2 years ago I was known by a completely fake surname. It was a massive decision for me to put my real name back online again. I doubt I would have done it if I hadn't been living in the country.

am I supposed to be able to hear something somewhere?

@dnw - click on play in the player at the top of the topic

@philmorle yeah, that's something that I'd fought against for a while but decided that it's quite futile to be completely virtual, so it's a matter of protecting your online identity

sorry I was late sweeties

oops... it's over

just finished dave

bye all :o)

 

good show peeps

 

Embed it in your own page

yeah they do

 

funny you shoudl say that

okay cam.

paste in some JS - easy

Thanks @mick, I love the tangler chat much better than the ustream chat... so that's great, thanks

@jodiem me too

Make it snow!!!

cam twist?

Can someone else do the video next week so we don't have to look at uncadunc all the time

Or the water bubbles please

Agenda Items for Next week:

http://www.tangler.com/forum/the2web/topic/33399
 

that's awsome

I think we should look at Bronwen

Bronwen is pretty

lol

hello!

yeah no offense Duncan, but I reckon your watchability would increase massively if you got Laurel or Bronwen to host..

Nik or Mick?

Ru serious?!

Nik is hard to reach.

I love Mick.

No video for Mick?

The Users definitely don't know

Ahhh the real reason you were late comes out.. ;o)

that would be cool Duncan

isn't there a spanking app already? 'cause I'm sure I've been spammed by it.

*spanks Velvet *

 

This is fun.

I look forward to it every week now
 

mebeam.com

 

can we set up that mebeam thing now? I want to test it out

 

woo! my lucky day :o)

Off air oredi? I didn't get to say goodbye

mebeam looks interesting

thanks for tuning in everyone

wish i had a camera.

 

which room are we using?

anyway, I'm off back to my real world, where there are no geeks. :o\

Thanks all! T'was fun

I'm in room 1... it's scary

 

lots of swearing and feedback

@dekrazee1 its getting better every week

Sure is!