I is ready

LOL

Hey everyone

Go here;

http://web20.tangler.com/live/

bring it

Anyone hear us?

not me

nope

No

Heya Richard!! I've been listening to Scouta TV!

@dekrazee1i hope youve been watching it as well

cool, hope you're enjoying it

LOL Watching it in between everything else

I can't hear anything yet - has it started????

Don't think so

got ya

Ah ha!

Hello, we can hear you

woo

can u hear us?

YESH

@dekrazee1 in this embedded tangler how do I set the entry mode to post mode?

yes - we can hear you now.

You're a bit soft tho Cam

It sounds ok from here cameron

jodiem is it in post mode

No echo from Mick here.

@dekrazee1 sorry then, I mean chat mode

Yep

I hear an echo.... cos you're 3 feet away Mick

No echo from Ustream. I can hear 3 different people.

Jodiem Nah, we took that away in the embed

Love this new tangler setup

Thanks!

I can hear you ok still

How come we can hear all of you?

Turn the volume down in ustream?

we can hear laurel

Time to throw more popcorn then

If you are on skype, you generally need to mute Ustream.

*cries*

Can someone paste in the agenda?

Laurel, we can hear you loud and clear

YEP

yep

you're echoing

Yes can hear everyone

w00t - can hear yes

all of you

yep

@bronwen why aren't you talking today?

i can hear all, this is a nice setup this week

W00T!

It was streaming?

other than that it was interesting to watch it on twitter / facebook etc\

Facebook group to all change your status to "is sorry"

BLEH

@BronwenClune oh puhleeeze. not you too

not me to what @grum

BTW my Bleh was at V-Day

howdy crew

My wife said it's ok not to get her anything for Valentines Day.

Phew!

it's a social networking thing ...

For once Twitter worked in IM this morning

sorry on facebook? am I the only one who finds social commentary done through facebook tacky?

Twitter has had BIG problems this week

no been worse this week Cam

Coming to 2 weeks now - twitter troubles

the audio is SUPER today!

yeah

I commented on the fact it was flaky and also asked if it was related, but now I can't find the tweet, so I guess it got lost :o(

@mick don't believe it! your wife needs a least dinner and a kiss

My Facebook profile now says "Sorry".

@Erk it's my audio that was messing it up - will need to get it fixed

@grum we use the tools that are relevant to us. To join in.

It's Rai - "rye"

Thanks!

oh ok bron, did u get the tutorial that i sent on twitter?

GO TANGLER

No, where else am I going to discuss it?

ye, turns out my computer jack for my audio mic is broken

Ahhh... you're one of those I won't watch tv with

stand up laurel

I can see that the FB status, twitter and Tangler can trivalise the issue a bit, by making light of it.

But then again, at least we're talking about it.

@ bron - oh crap!

remind me never to watch a movie with laurel

I live in the middle of nowhere, and the bulk of my friends are working, if not for here I would be experiencing this on my own, and like Laurel, I'm a social creature.

Not sure I want to watch TV with you.

go cam - FIRE UP! lol

At the cafe this morning we were all saying sorry, sorry and laughing it.

great things about Twitter is we can talk about it quietly

hmmm @silkcharm is one of _those_ people

It depends.... some people talk constantly! So you can't follow anything

Facebook profile changes are not trivial in this case - its an act of solidarity.

while we watch

What about the cinema? Does she talk there too?

@phil depends on why you do it?

My 3 year old says that Laurel

Why else would I do it @Mick?

anonymous

@mick so when are you going to embed tangler into the tv??? now that would be cool

@phil, bandwagon, funny.

I'ts like saying your religion is jedi in the census.

free wireless might be just that - starting in Twitter and moving to free wireless across the country

In any eample I can think of, it says to the community "I am thinking about this"

Hi all.  I can't here anything on this crappy pc.  I hate work machines.

I saw that on the news the other night, all those people in alien masks.

here = hear

I am fascinated by Scientology. Number of topics and videos on Tangler on the matter.

sorry rai for calling you "ray" instead of "rye".

@Kodo Awwww... bummer!

@Cam hahaha no worries.... I wasn't looking for an apology. It's a common mistake

Is this a 2web crew issue?

who's Rye?

Me

what?

@alex i work across the road from the australian scientology head office here in sydney, next door is a baptist church, next to the catholic club

Dekrazee one is Rai (pronounced Rye)

@Kodo Hey!! Our offices are very near!

Yeah. But Kiva got the boost from Oprah

kiva.com

im on cnr of bathurst and eliz & castlereagh

Bangladesh

http://www.kiva.org/

@Kodo I'm on Harris St

However clever Scientologists are at mobilising people, not sure I want to emulate them in any fashion.

and no thats not the telstra building or anz bank....

anti-S (anti-branding)

will.i.am Yes We Can

Joining a cause on Facebook - how many people do more than just join a group?

Individuals are blogging about the elections on Twitter, but the candidates themselves have little if any presence.

do you think there is some dilution of importance on facebook because there are so many causes/events there?

@dekrazee1 too far for me to walk from here  LOL

is this live twitter?

@ bron, good question

I'm all over Twitter and Pownce, but avoid Facebook. I'm still surprised it gets used so much despite privacy issues.

http://www.facebook.com/barackobama?ref=mf

500,000 members

@bronwen it takes no effort to do anything on facebook and content like social/political commentary is not taken seriously in such a medium. just like how an online petition has almost no influence in comparison to a written one.

I don't do facebook much anymore, or twitter lately to be honest.

@grum agree in some regards.

SilkCharm StarFish

bugger, I missed the start of this

@grum the government had  morning teas.

heya m0nty!

what are they discussing anyways i am just following the chat

In web 2.0, the power or influence is with individual users rather than big personalities. It's not about Barack Obama being out there, it's about Obama supporters on web 2.0

*cuddles m0nty*

Kodo  - Talking about social activism and social networks

is it true I could Skype call in to prodive talkback?

easy there SilkCharm, I don't cuddle with just anybody I'll have you know

Lessig on Obama

ahhh guess comes back to what i said on twitter. im all a bit meh about social causes and the like unless i am directly affected. maybe i am just selfish.

http://geekswhocare.com/

kodo, in case you hadnt noticed, if we don't all start to change things, you WILL be afffected.. no water, bombings, etc.

http://www.solidariti.com

link for the Chip-In thingy??

the third world isn't just going to sit there and take the abuse forever

@adb kiva.org

http://www.chipin.com/

The thing about people who feel they have nothing to lose is that they're dangerous.

Cool!

http://igrin.com.au http://peermint.com.au

@velvet *shocked*

https://www.igrin.com.au/Default.aspx

i've only had FB for 2 weeks and there are so many weird and wacky groups out there

water bombing, now that is fun

there's also http://fundable.org/

@Erk For sure!

test

water bombing. what a waste of water.

has the chat room stopped?

No

nope

yes

peermint forgot to set the background colour, as did this tangler forum ;o)

hahahaha

gee i sent that msg about FB about 5 minutes ago!

sent that question about 5 min ago, dek lol

@cameronreilly i agree that what is happening over there is wrong but when i was thinking social activism i was thinking more like what your tryig to do with geekswhocare and the like.

Why don't you invite Marty onto the show Cam?

we did suggest it

http://www.womworld.com/nseries/takeyourseats/

haha, Cam is "semi a startup guy"

I'd buy it

..not that much

For the show notes, igrin needs to be http://www.igrin.com.au

hello forum

hello eleusis ...

hello dear, welcome from uStream

Heya eleusis!

so what next for Marty?

G'day

what's Marty's next project, that's the interesting question

i dont think he has one yet

officially anyway

@Monty snap

and who's financing him

peer to peer finance - lists of banks eg zopa, prosper, igrin kiva http://http://www.wiseclerk.com

hm, this widget's a bit dodgy..

and is he going to move to the US?

He's already there m0nty

@m0nty he is in the US

ah

LOL

You're always entertaining Cam

the truth?! you can't handle the truth..!

Apparently Nic has disappeared

truth, justice and the cameron way!

sorry, had to be done. ;o)

yeah, talk a bit about Nic

I think Cam is right in asking

ouch!

LOL @monty!

http://www.wiseclerk.com/group-news/ - is correct link for social banking

I'm sure Duncan said Nic had left facebook

Nic from Omnidrive

I thought he said Nic was MIA from everywhere

i'm having trouble keeping up with all these streams..

LOL

Cam sounds a bit off-mic to me

oh snore

yep

the http://www.microhoo.com domain is up for sale lol

Yahoo - sucky Microsoft - sucky

Perfect partners if you ask me

I don't want my core technology provider to be trying to be the next best thing in advertising

7500 are from Cam, to be fair

So they took the 5000 limit away?

I reckon we should go register that ;o)

http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/02/12/bill-gates-quits-facebook/

ye I get 3000 requests a day - it's tough

i'm a member of the

I'm a fan of silkcharm, myself.

Phew! I'm honoured you accepted mine Bronwen!

@velvet and so you should be

@erk lol

oops where did that code come from?

@erk rofl, one of my best friends is guilty of that.

we know that

name and shame velvet lol

Twitter I'm more open than FB for me to accepting people I don't know

@bronwen you need to hire a PA to deal with it. maybe you can share one with Laurel?

That was a backward sentence

Haha

@Cam YES!!

I want too

@JJ i reckon you'd need a PA to deal with your twitter friends wouldn't you?

who has drawn their FB wheel?

What's a FB wheel?

@erk link?

it's an app, velvet, standby

I don't add no apps

I use the big network to find people I'm really interested in.

http://apps.facebook.com/friendwheel FACEBOOK FRIEND WHEEL

People I don't know yet

@jjprojects not interested in me? oh, im gonna cry now.

Click on 'friends' in FB and on the right you'll see Lists

@grum Well I'm interested in most, just like finding new people in new places.

@cameron I would love to hear Malcolm Gladwell on G'day world!

http://thomas-fletcher.com/facebook/friendwheel/showwheel.php?userid=726521310&name=Sarah%20Isaacson&pass=8b51062660

pretty. And I don't use facebook that much

Back... I forked off for a while..

hahahaha @ phil!

thought i was listening to spoonman for a second with all this fork talk

@erk ahaha

sigh. I finally get things sorted so i can listen to the podcast live, and I get a meeting request at 10 to 11!
 How was it all?

noodlez, it is still going

howdy dizzy

noodlez - It's still going mate

how much longer you reckon?

I find Twitter gets grouped by times of day

Seriously, Facebook groups are shit

Such an after thought

This looks interesting for managing different social nets centrally... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/12/yahoos-oneconnect-one-mobile-app-to-rule-them-all

it depends on the group.

time to get some food.

What the hell? I just got spammed by twitter IM

I've never needed to fork my outlook address book and I don't imagine ever needing to fork my facebook list.

News:

Yahoo lays off 1,000 people

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9870487-7.html

velvet - Me too!

@phil you've never created a distrubtion list?

@Phil  techteam@company.com is a forking.

Precisely yes...  but its is from the same database. Its a different view of the same data.

No it isn't @Mick

Its a filter

Filtering is a way to fork?

"controlled" forking

is this thing on???

@SilkCharm - yeh... I guess

i just noticed a Google ad on the Microhoo domain for sale page at http://www.microhoo.com and a combined Microhoo logo

It's the village rule. Once you get past 140 people, they need to segment, but that can be a town, with a small neighbourhood.

@aDB

yes - hit play

adb, it's still going

yes, Free Sydney Wireless already has content depth issues
 with the FB group

Soz - just playing with the "you go", 'No you go" a minute ago

hahaha

i joined modm sydney

Cam - Modem's have been around for a while? Not sure it's going to fly...

Cam, that's all the FB group is good for.... once you join, there's nothing much else (imo)

facebook 2.0?

can hax FaceBook killr ?

I like where video networking is going.

dek, the FB groups are good to sending out messages to the group about events

Cam - then it's just a glorified mailing list. So it's only really good as an intial 'advert' for membership

but FB apps can only be sent to 20 per day and some of those have gone million plus in a day!

@silkcharm isn't that the point though, they are a targeted audience

@cam IanKath is in Brissy...

@bronwen targeted - if you are in their network.

well thats annoying, ustream does not like connecting via mobile. no podcast for me

Yeah, nothing beats Oprah for viral push

I'd like to hear some discussion about RichardGiles' tweet that 33% of Boing Boing's posts are now video... everything's turning up video

@mick so when will tangler be a facebook app?

yep wanky

Sooo many fb apps being built now

exactly - first wave is done, but 'real' apps are to come

business models

It amuses me that the 'useful' apps don't get spread around as much as the idiotic ones

also, exclusive breaking news to 2webcrew: FanFooty is running at 100% traffic growth on year-ago figures

Interesting question from JasonCalacanis on Twitter:

Why would yahoo lay people off if they are going to sell to Microsoft? MS wants to hire more people!: http://tinyurl.com/2erpsr

Weathering the storm of a long bidding war?

yeah but microsoft want to hire GOOD people

@philmorle: maybe so their options can vest early and they can sell while the stock price is high?

engineers at Yahoo seem awesome to me.

the share price doesnt seem to reflect that

so what is SIlkCharm's porn star name, anyway?

silkcharm

poor leadership  aweful leadership.

i like playing pacman

@ monty lol

change their minds.

followers not leaders.

My post on social apps and the business model dilemma;

http://www.liubinskas.com/blog/2008/02/04/fake-social-ads-and-the-businss-model-balance/

Being spammed by friends is the new spam for sure.

All Hail Cameron.

keep going!!

I'm hungry

;o)

take talkback calls!

Well I just twittered it, so you can't stop yet

need lunch too - have to wrap it up sometime

Good Podcast People.

if you didnt throw your popcorn dek, you'd be right!

I can do talkback

give me your skype ID and I'll plug you in, one at a time

@Erk good point.... If only I liked popcorn. bummer

Yeah cameron, can we use your skype dial in number - we could try it out...

first in first serve

@cam jminers

what about donating or paying for podcasts?

sez you're offline jm

Advertising - MySpace makes $2.17 per member per year. Habbo makes $17.00 per month - no Advertising. CyWorld makes $7.00 per month no ads- pixel products only.

skype id = dekrazee1 (surprise surprise!)

But I got no questions. But feel free to add me on (if anyone wants to)

uhoh I got bumped

How does Habbo generate their $17.00 / mth?

*cries* *sobs*

@ dek

back

lol @ dek even

hahaha

I'll do talkback from m0nty_au when you're ready Cam

Habbo. How does it make $17.00?

controversy

cam online now

http://philmorle.com/index.php/kevin-kellys-rules-for-media-companies/

Good post via Phil on other ways to be worth money

Im here Im here

No no!!!

Let the others speak

i can see you waving jodie lol

Taa Daaa!

LOLing at Cam

laughing.

• Immediacy
• Personalization
• Interpretation
• Authenticity
• Accessibility
• Embodiment
• Patronage
• Findability
2008-02-12 19:21:19.0

Cam I have Jodie's boss on the other line

isn't everyone moving to melbourne?

jodie, just tell your boss that you heard it was a public holiday today

you lot might as well have some use - find JodieM a job in Melb

@aDB nuh uh.... I lurrrrve Sydney!

Victoria is where the hizzaps are

@ dek good onya

@dekrazee1 me too, but the missus is set on moving.

I don't like it - anyone wanna buy an Asus EEE cheap?

me, Tai and Ross Hill represent surf coast crew

@aDB Awww... So you're going? Confirmed?

aww

bumped!

bye darlings

Ta ta!

@dekrazee1 as good as. I'm draggin my feet.

Thx all!

Bye

BYE

wow that was cool

really great show today! cya

@aDB ohh

FOOD!!!

after party?

SHhhhh

lunch for me now - see ya

Leave it here

Dumped  again, story of my life

huuuuungry

ta ta every1!

*mwah* kisses - Ciao everyone ;o)

next week m0nty man

sure, all the girls say that

Going in search of foooooood....

See ya all next week! .... or on Twitter

bye guys/girls!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10541959803

Bye everyone, thanks for all the ftoosh

Love how half the forum is sound check

hey that's a bit rough Nat!! It's only 45%.

LOL!

hey nath, did you sleep through the podcast again, mate?

HA HA HA! *slap* - no I was at work today, in the office, working ... well actually I spent a disproportionate amount of time reading the latest jmag as my computer was required by a co-worker as I'm the only one with Acrobat Professional

And I'm quite disgusted that only 2 songs of the 10 I voted for made it into the Hottest 100

I thought I was a bit late because I was recording my own ep before I came across but after listening back, I only missed the sound check. It was a good show. I enjoyed it and wasn't expecting the talk back!

Can anyone tell me what the music is used in this episode. It says "It must be me", but it's not.

Zef, you're right, thanks for picking up the error. The track is "Come On" by a band called Take 6.

Hello! Testing embedding again!

oops.

Another bug! Dek, fix it!

Woah!

Yeah, tha'ts actually a RealPlayer conflict. It's noted around the web and we're trying to hack it apart.

great

Realplayer? Why would that cause this?

Ask Realplayer?

And Natanael for future reference - dek's better at breaking things than fixing em

Need some help?

How to fix it though?

You'd have to disable the RealPlayer plugin while using Tangler for now.

Meanwhile, our devs are working on it

No problemo, I don't have it installed.

interesting staff

Hi

Heya metaweb!