Yaaay!

Missed the beginning.

Who's on the show today?

me, dunc and stilgherrian

Ah!

Thanks!

damn ustream chat won't work for me

But you can hear the show?

I'm on today!

but duncan seems to be having trouble conferencing me in.

hehehe so the skype sounds tell me

talking about Underbelly, the law, bittorrents and the like

yep, suspect IRC ports blocked by corp firewall

ahhhh

nooooooooooooo :p

So why are we talking about Underbelly?

Did something happen lately that I missed?

nah @dekrazee1, I think some peeps just needed to rant about how they think the law is an ass. i disagree on this point, but no-one wanted to hear that.

LOL!

What do you disagree with??

their point is there's no point banning the show in Vic. My point is that's to protect court cases that are or will be underway, and that anyone involved in those cases must not be influenced by dramatic versions of the facts they are being asked to decide upon.

no heard of QOS before?? this has been going on since for ever

layer 3 routing

aDB - I agree with that. But the point is that banning the show doesn't actually solve the issue does it?

mspecht - what's QOS?

dekrazee1 of course not, but that's no reason to scrap the law just because the problem is difficult!

quality of service basic feature of networking, used big time in corp and ISPs to shape traffic

Right... I must have missed the part about scrapping the law

mspecht - ah! Thanks!

dekrazee1 well that is the ultimate goal of this argument isn't it? otherwise why bring it up?

dekrazee1 for example ftp who cares how long it tacks, but VOIP traffic required very high priority

aBD - Possibly a change in the law? Or a different way of doing things?

dekrazee1 - that might be useful, but it isn't where the conversation goes. These guys just stand up and shout "the law is an ass", think they look cool and that's as far as they go.

But it's through standing up and shouting that the people who affect the laws will get the idea?

dekrazee1 if you say anything more than "the law is an ass" then perhaps it might move things forwards. If that's ALL you say (and that's all I keep seeing) then you're just doing it to look cool and be all anti-establishment and that's not exactly progress, is it?

True....

Hearing you well.

Gotta love Crikey.

...or people like me who enjoy politics from an observer perspective.

yep the ustream chat sucks  

Yeah.... but people seem more comfortable using it.

I'd rather it here cos the older messages are saved - keep missing out on info in the other one

yes yes virtual worlds

All done...

Catch ya later all!