Thanks you for Inviting. I am Hasnain from Pakistan. I hope we can all help each other to learn more about socialmedia trends in Asia.

Thank you for your intro Hasnain, we will start today's discussion in 1,5hrs;) My invite was quite late, so if we need to we will move it a bit forward, but let's see;) Talk to you then!

no Worries. I am in office & have alot f things to do, but still I will be joining in the conversation today. I would like to introduce you all with my social presence. you can find me on Twitter @Socializedweb and on facebook.com/socialstream Cheers

thank you!

And one more thing. I can Invite More Bloggers from Pakistan if you wish. whats say?

feel free to, of course!

Let me remind everyone to introduce themselves (Hasnain, thank you for doing so;)) when joining the discussion. We will have the chat saved here for everyone to be able to refer to it any time in the future, so it's worth mentioning your on-line presences, projects, companies. Let us know your location and interests around social media. Thank you!

ok, I am back here, who is available? shall we wait few minutes?

Hello

hi Ahmed, how are you?

I'm great, thanks for asking how are you?

can you quickly introduce yourself so we have it in the chat history?

very excited we will have this panel monthly now:)

and a bit tired after Twestival in Oxford;) did you have one in Cairo?

not really, poor planning :S

really? may I ask what went wrong? there will be few Twestival organisers here later on, so maybe they can learn from it?

(I will just add that Ahmed took part in our first panel on Middle East this spring)

well, nothing really, I think @TripleM couldn't find any sponsors for it since the whole thing is brand new to Egypt...people didn't take it as seriously as it is...

but there is a strong blogging community in Cairo, did @TripleM make the assumption it has to be sponsored? you could have done just a meet up smoking a pipe or so...

that's what I was thinking about this morning, trying to do so as we speak

Hello Preetam here.

well, I think you should go for it next time and do something small, suiting community, just to show people what twestival is about...

Hi Preetam, how are you?

Hello all, I am Francisco from...well now UK, but from Latin America and also Spain and really looking forward to seeing what's cooking up in Asia's Social Media. I'll be jumping in and out as work is always in the middle...

hola hombre!:) thank you for the introduction!

Preetam, would you be so kind to tell us few words about you?

Hasnain, are you still around?

I am logging in from Singapore, I travel a bit in East Asia. use to be the South East Asia editor for GV. Now help organise blog camps and barcamps across the region.

What is the difference between blog camp and a barcamp?

blogcamp tends to attract social media types.. while barcamp is more inclusive.. we have developers, designers, hardware hackers, educators and bloggers.

is there a difference in a form, I mean barcamp is an un-conference, series of sessions, to a certain extent improvised as well, how about blog camp? (I am asking because I never attended a blog camp, so I do apologise for ignorance!)

Ahmed, do you have barcamps or blog camps in Egypt, btw?

depends on the region.. barcamps always tend to be open ended..  but in blog camps, some countries have a planned one while some have open ended. Usually if they have more budget, they will invite speakers ..   I prefer less budget events as they tend to be less about celebrity bloggers and more about sharing

well, we did have a wordpress camp months ago...maybe some bloggers meetups and stuff like that

once the PR companies and marketers get involved .. it is a race to the bottom

I see where you are coming from, Preetam! What was the recent event you took part in?

Are you saying that if marketers get involved they should first learn how to do so? or should not get involved at all?

Ahmed, I remember you and others saying during previous panel session that blogger events in Cairo tend to happen off line, in form of socialising, maybe that is the reason why barcamps are not so popular?

True..true

Was in HK last weekend for the Hong Kong Barcamp.. We have the Phnom Penh barcamp coming up in 2 weeks.  The marketers tend to hijack the events, we loose the grass-rootness. They develop lists of influential bloggers etc. start ranking bloggers.  I think that destroys the community

yes. our barcamps are usually held at campuses. we try to keep them simple. so they tend to fun events. Also in South East Asia, the flights are inexpensive.. So we do see people traveling to each others events

this one? http://barcampphnompenh.org/

yes.. come over.. its going to be awesome events. We have Thais, the Vientnamese, the Malaysians all coming..

yes.. come over.. its going to be awesome events. We have Thais, the Vientnamese, the Malaysians all coming..

yes.. come over.. its going to be awesome events. We have Thais, the Vientnamese, the Malaysians all coming..

ranking bloggers? what for? I see it will definitely dis encourage grass-rootness!

wow, impressive, I would love to, but I am stuck in the UK for a while, can I attend virtually? would love to do a session on ethics;)

I did one via Skype and Ustream for BarcampUAE, worked quite ok...;)

Logistics is definitely a big issue, isn't it, I mean you are saying people can fly easily to the events which is great because you share the learnings internationally!

yes.. come over.. its going to be awesome events. We have Thais, the Vientnamese, the Malaysians all coming..

I thik Preetam you know Chip from Vietnam, she is organising tweet ups?

She will hopefully join us today or tomorrow...

yes.. chip and anh and the bunch.. Chip is fun, she always gets lost

really?:)

yes. she got lost in Kula Lumpur barcamp

she seems like a very funny girl, I like her blog too!

Hey everyone. It's Dwight in Bangkok I blog at insearchofsanuk.com about philanthropy and cause-focused messaging. I was the organizer of the recent Bangkok twestival and also run the bangkok tweetup here to support volunteering projects.

how can you get lost in a barcamp?!

hello Dwight

I mean in KL city

Hi Dwight! how are you?

ah, ok!

Thai events are fun.. The barcamps have all sorts of topics.. they encourage non-tech topics.

we had 700 people signed up for the last one in Bangkok

Dwight is also doing tweet ups (Dwight, we just talk about barcamps and tweetups and gril called Chip from Vietnam, who organises tweetups there)

wow, impressive! do you have the url?

good! Preetam did you attend the seminar on how to date a japanese girl?

ah, hold on.. http://www.barcampbangkok.org/ ?

it's over.. it was in May.  The next one is in Chiang Mai on Nov 14th

I am asking for links so others can use them too, in case if you have not seen those events;)

yes. two times.. once in Bangkok and in KL..

ok

Dwight - are you taking part in barcamps?

http://www.barcampbangkok.org/

thx

while we had the tokyo barcamp just a week before the Bangkok and it had only 70 people.

why was that?

you see when I did barcamp transparency in Oxford and compared it with another one we had earlier this year, I realised it really depends on the topic...is that the case in your region too?

no. I am friends with one of the organizers and hope to be participating in the next one. they are interested in doing more with the groups of people interested in social change

hard to get larger venues in Tokyo.

or is it because of the format, community?

ah, I see.

yes.. we do have many sessions on social change in the Thai, Cambodian and Indonesian barcamps

Hi guys, this is Eddie Yu from China. I work as a sales in a mobile phone manufacturer.

TBH i do not have much of online presence at the moment and i will mostly be a listener today

you should do a barcamp in few venues at the same time, hehe

ni hao eddie.

Dwight is very involved in social change, he also organised the Twestival recently

yes. the yokohama and singapore are on the same day.. we will skype speakers

Hi Eddie, nice to see you here!:)

ni hao everyone. well, I have been invited here by the nice lady Sylwia

good idea!:)

welcome Eddie

Eddie and I used to work together..what, 3 years ago?:)

ya, that was back in 2006 - 2007. and I started in 1000heads like 2004

Though another trend I see these days is that younger people don't really care for bigger blogs.. they don't read so many blogs.. they just read their friends.  so we have many smaller circles..   and many younger people scoff at the idea of getting bloggers together, to them it is not a big deal

partly bcos I know how powerful the www is nowadays and i am a little scared to expose myself out there. however, i do enjoy the occational peep at other ppls blog and see what others are up to

do you mean that social media is fragmenting a bit?

that is very true, we have too much in front of us and what do ppl do. that is particulally true in China

it seems to be an overall trend too, no? well established bloggers meet with each other, and niche communities develop outside of their reach...

yes.. I would say a lot.. Like about 4 years back, you could make a list of top 10 bloggers in Singapore or Malaysia.. Now it is getting harder..   Also a lot of people are moving to systems like mixi.. where their posts are not public..

isn't it a natural development though...?

mixi? how does it work?

Chip also mentioned to me the other day that conversations in Vietnam are fading away from Twitter, and she has no idea why...

there was a girl who was fired in Thailand for making fun of her english teaching school on her blog.. and her boss discovering her blog.. many incidents like that.. so people tend to be wary

mixi is just another social networking site as i remember . just like myspace and facebook

thx, I see

that is what i mean, you are too exposed on the web

yes. though its probably the first one where ..everything is private.. you have to be invited to see someones' profile. Japanese prefer privacy

mixi is from Japan.

well, there is always an option as to whether you want to be exposed

I think as the web is developing, in all regions, people learn more about privacy too...as you said Preetam, there are cases of people being layed off for their content, and there is also filtering etc...all this together with web fragmenting tends to drive the niche communities to develop...it seems to be the case in Asia too

but if this is the case, how do the 'leading bloggers' or those who (as you said few years ago) were the best 10 change their on-line presence?

Eddie - Facebook has those options too, but people seems to be quite open there...way too open sometimes:/

they don't ..they still have following..but the same set of people.  They will not have younger followers.

Another issue is the language, there are a lot of different sites coming up. We also have the problem of the Great Chinese Firewall here in China, Facebook and Twitter are the no go area here

these days most my students don't follow a blog.. they discover a blog post via some friend's post on facebook.

I just saw a live video from CEE Trust camp in Bratislava before we started - a blogger form Romania did experiment on other attendees of the meetup adding them to the fake FB profile - most of them actually shared a lot of info (I will have the vid url, so I will post it here)

yes.. pretty fragmented in terms of language. middle east has that advantage.. mostly arabic.. we have so many languages in East Asia

(here is the live chat, rest will continue tomorrow morning http://csf.ceetrust.org/livechat/)

Eddie san, which city are you in?

I think Middle East is unique, just as Iranian blogosphere is, indeed, and I will be very interested to see what Latin American bloggers have to say next month..but in Asia? Language is a challenge, no?

Shenzhen

Preetam - what languages are the barcamps in? the ones we talked about?

there are smaller niche communities, but I think thats also a response to the way social media is being used to send highly preferential content and just more of a multitude of voices in general

very good point, Dwight!

ah nice. I was in HK yesterday..   the barcamps are in English.. though we have some sessions in local languages too

the indonesian one are in bahasa

barcamp here is in thai/english with a very big thai following

Also, I think most social networkers miss out the biggest platform.. the forums.. I would bet that Forums have way more traffic than blogs and other places.

back to the top 10 bloggers, I think they can only be found by categories. Especially on the popular topics such as food n drink, tech, fashion, politics etc.

for other general bloggers, they would probably have to be ignored.

and what about blogs? thai blogosphere seems large, people rarely post in English (apologies, it's my first impressions), whereas I did see a lot of Vietnamese blogs in English..

I do go to HK every now and then

yes. there are more English blogs in Cambodia compared to Thailand

Thais love Thai language. thats clear living here. unless they directly benefit from an english audience, most prefer the mother tongue

Eddie - what are the most popular categories then? The Wave 3 McCann report mentioned (globally) lifestyle and personal bloggers, is that the case in China?

Eddie, the younger bloggers are less niche.. I have observed that usually they blog about general things.. if there is a political incident then for few days they will blog about it ..then back to their general blogging.

When we talked about English posting in Middle East it became quite apparent that posting in English depends on education and wealth of population...can this be the factor here as well? or is there a different reason as to why English is popular in one area, country and not another?

@Eddie, we are trying to do a barcmap in Guangzhou.. get involved if you are interested

that is a difficult one to say, China alone is a huge space, preetam would know that especially in HK, fashion and entertainment news (gossips) are probably the most popular amoug the younger audiences

btw should mention the same is true of micro-blogging. a lot more of thai lang tweets than eng ones lately. how about where y'all are? is micro blogging reflective of the blogging happening where you are?

yes. Malaysia and Singapore has good English..but rest of the region does not .. India is big on English blogs though

Dwight, is there a lot of ex-pat blogs in Thailand? how do those bloggers network locally if Thai is so popular?

Guangzhou sounds ok, let me know the details plz and i will see if i can make it

(I have most of your e-mail addresses, if you want to get in touch with each other, feel free to arrange it via me;)

in China, there were a lot of Ex-Pat bloggers but when Blogger.com was banned from China, I have lost all of them

Thanks Sylwia

Preetam, but you did say that people travel to different events in the region, how do you manage language barriers there?

yes. twitter has really taken of in the region..  we just had the launch of the INQ phone last week in Singapore.. I think it will explode more

yes. twitter has really taken of in the region..  we just had the launch of the INQ phone last week in Singapore.. I think it will explode more

did all ex-pat bloggers in CHina post on Blogger.com? nowhere else? did they not move to other platforms once blogger.com was banned?

did my last comment go through?

micro-blogging is also interesting, because it seems to fill up the gaps in networking and sharign information whenever blogging seems to be too...rigid (? can I use this word)...

Also a lot of MSN conversation is moving to twitter..  Twitter saves people from the obligation of answering immediately.

there was a couple of ex-pat sites that I found and located some of their blogger URLs, all on Blogger.com

surely they could freely move on to a local site but I guess they are having trouble reading Chinese

Dwight, ' is micro blogging reflective of the blogging happening where you are?' was you last one...

dont think it did. basically two communities develop with a few people accepted in both. they coexist without much interaction

Preetam - this is why I still like e-mails:) and Twitter:) helps managing my time

I think microblogging more as people moving from msn and yahoo im. like the thai friends who used to be on my MSN are now all on twitter.. and tend to use it more

indonesians all moved to facebook

Eddie, I see

Dwight - you mean blogging and Twitter community?

I think Thailand and Cambodia has good synergy between local and expat bloggers.. in other places.. they tend to have different communities

let's go back to how communities use sites - (will talk about ex-pats in a sec): Preetam you are saying the conversation is moving. Do people have one main venue, site they like to use for conversations?

And is it true to say the conversations move because of what new technologies have to offer or because friends are moving, so others join them too?

From what I see in the UK conversations move to new venues, as those appear (when Twitter was new, or when Facebook introduced new options) but after a while a group of friends/specialists/a tribe stays on each of those. and people tend to have one-two, max few sites they talk on for longer...

In Poland (where I come from) people are less flexible, and use one site...it's difficult to move them form one site to another...

uff, I typed a bit there..your turn;)

from what i see.. its pretty much transient.. except perhaps in the forums.. they are still holding out strong.. I think people prefer forums when thy don't want to own the conversation..but just make a point

as far as social media use in TH thais have been slow to move away from sites like hi5. so in comparison to say indonesia, growth of facebook/twitter has been slower. and yes, forum loyalty is still strong here

I think Facebook will cross Hi5 soon in Thailand..

In China, QQ has been the big boss for years. Especially a lots of sites been blocked, even Youtube

yesterdy someone was giving me the numbers of Facebook in Asia.. and everywhere they are trouncing other platforms  except China

and in Japan it is Mixi

is SK pretty loyal to cyworld?

QQ Space, or MSN Live space, since MSN space is one of the very few sites that are accessible from China. So it is tend to be used by Chinese around the world to update their friends in China

yes.. cyworld still popular..  they have the mini-homeP.. the mini homepage.. Korean girls love it..

China is interesting..even.. officials have their QQ number on their business cards

I see business cards in China ,,where there is no email.. just QQ and skype..

really? like Skype name in the UK - got to the business card level ...

i have not been on any of those networking sites for a couple of years now, but then recently the QQ Farm is getting so popular among ppl, from students to working class

why recently? did they develop something new?

I always wonder what makes certain sites popular?

it is fair to say that everyone in China who has internet acces has at least one QQ number

http://preetamrai.com/weblog/archives/2007/04/19/an-electronics-mall-and-internet-messaging-in-china-and-skype-prime/

it's not only usability and accessibility - although I am sure it's important to...

Hello everyone, Hasnain invited me here and I am from Pakistan (Lahore). I represent my company @genexbs at twitter and facebook mainly... what is going on here? How can I help?

and the premium numbers can be sold for real money, some nice numbers are worth over 5000 GBP

salam walekum bilal  ..   how's lahore.. miss the nihari kabab

Thank you for joining us, Bilal!

yes.. like 88888 also. chinese like japanese have interesting sland.. 521 =I loveyou

Sylwia - i would say just like the online games, the fun factor. in this case, the QQ farm have a lot of interactivity

we are talking about sites popular in different regions of Asia, and why people use them, why are those (not other sites) popular...

Also.. china is big.. so many people leave their home city and go to other parts of the country.. QQ is their way of always being there

very true, Preetam knows China very well

people use it a lot as answers.com.. they ask questions

Thanks Preetam and Sylwia -- food in Lahore is spicy so does is social media - if you know us a bit , you know we are extremist in every field of life.

Preetam knows a lot about Asia:)

wo shi zhonguo ren.. Eddie..

and China mobile has teamed up with QQ so that for around 2GBP a month you can stay online 27/7 with unlimited chat

great stuff!

OPPS... sorry Preetam

Eddie .. you must tell us about the Flesh search..  on chinese forums.. how they use the forums to catch some wrong do-ers

and here in the UK, my wifi is useless, and rather expensive (I have no phone line at home), mobile web unreliable grrrr...

that is partly why QQ stock raise from 3HKD 3 yrs back to 30 HKD last year then to 130 HKD now

yes.. and the internet is near ubiquitous in china..even a small town.. in yunnan or nei manggu..

forums were always very active venues for discussion and I have a feeling they always will be, good to know that is the case in your region too

the y must do something about the net costs in europe.. Asia has good rates in that respect..

Flesh search --- i dont know much about that, will need to look it up :S Sorry

they are also very closed communities, where trust plays a key role, and moderating makes it feel a bit more...quality? you get quality content and others do the managing job for you...

like the one where the girl took picture of the kittens she has killed with her heel shoes

that did ring a bell. horrible

Preetam, no wonder social media is developing so fast in Asia - if you have cheap access to the web, and I guess mobile blogging is quite popular too! INQ is a good move as well...

Pakistan is in Asia as well

Did you hear about the Ni channeru guy.. Ni channeru or (2 Channel) is a popular Japanese forum.. that always gets sued by companies who want to admin to reveal the posters..  The guy who ran it , moved the owning company to Singapore.

Preetam, why would someone put a picture like that on a forum?! Sounds horrible!

Yes.. they have some bloggers in Pakistan..  very strong community..

Bilal, tell us about blogging in Pakistan, and Twitter? is Twitter popular?

no..this girl use to put the pictures on web..  the forum guys found out who she was.. by crowdsourcing.. they posted pictures across forums in china.. asking people to identify the building in the background.

we are having bloggers meetups and twitter meetups in major cities of Pakistan, youth is very optimistic about writing blogs for sharing as well as some money making

may be this page will give you some idea

http://join.pk/pakistani+bloggers

also check this http://join.pk/go+green+pakistan a social media movement on independence day of Pakistan

Thank you Bilal, really good sites!

but the problem of Chinese forums is that there are way too many ppl here, the forum posts easily reach over 10 pages in a day. and most annoyingly, majority of the posts are meaningless, just purely bumping the thread

Sylwia twitter is not popular as yet, but it will be people loving doing SMS all the time...

Bilal, I think Twitter is also popular, no?

Bilal is there any barcamp or blog meetup happening?  I want to go.

to our estimate there are less than 5000 pakistani members are twitter

I do see a few people on Twitter and I think you had a meme with changing avatar picture too, I think I read about it on Global Voices...

In south asia we don't have so many computers like China or south east asia.. so SMS is still popular.. We do have some SMS based social netoworks.. like SMS gupshup in India

and more than 10 lacks users on Facebook - from Pakistan

10 lack is 1 million isn't it?

Preetam yeah there are many meetups , I can inform you , can you travel to Pakistan?

Eddie, it's a general issue with forums - people talk about nothing sometimes; but there are good forums (for instance technical, where people need advice) sharing useful information too, no? You have a challenge of moderating though:/

yup i guess so - i am very bad with maths

I tried once.. but bit hard to get the Visa as I am from India.. but I will try from China.. and come over. I want to visit Lahore.

i thought in India they 1 lack = 100k

i personally run a web development company in Lahore - but i am very interested to learn more about social media and implement that in our business model

yes.. your are right eddie..it is 100, 000

Bilal, you say sms is popular, how about mobile blogging? or generally using web form mobiles?

Preetam you are welcome anytime, be our guest .. i will be glad to assist you and show you important parts of city - i read in history hindus mainly built this city

i do not dare to count, i am useless;)

Sylwia - the Chinese forum culture is BAD, even in technical forums. way too many bumps, you often need to claw through 10 pages to find what you want

Sylwia GPRS is slow - people don't write much, bloggging is only being done by those who are hurt with our government and the way our country is being demolished

yes..we were once thinking of doing an event in Sri Lanka ..so both the Pakistani and Indian bloggers can meet.

Though Eddie,, one thing I will give to Chinese forums.. because Chinese people are everywhere in the world..  sometimes..Chinese forums are the best source of info on smaller countries.. specially in Africa..

a few of Pakistani twitter users, brought Pakistan in trending topics during our independence day 14th august .. also when we won the cricket 20/20 tournament we were in trending topics, a few users but they are very active, they tweet chat all the time

Eddie, really? what do moderators do then?

you can follow @JOINPK to see our friends list to find the main Paki Twitter people and how can we forget @socializedweb

I have actually not looked up any information on Africa, but yes, i guess that is true to a degree, based on the Great Chinese firewall does not block those sites

i understand the importance of real life, difference between real life and virtual . however virtual meetups and discussions can also help bring communities of asia together. everyone don't have time and resources to travel to attend a group meeting.

i mean they are good for business information..as Chinese traders visit these countries more than traders from other countries.. and chinese people are usually wired and more tech savvy than Indian traders

Sylwia - Mods just sit and watch. They can not do anything. One of the trading forum that i sometime visit has milliions of posts a day, what can they do, besides, based on the page refresh rates and the stats, it looks GREAT

yes. that is right..and fights in virtual forums are less harmful..

I think both is good, I mean Preetam was mentioning flights are cheap, but sometimes it's hard to manage the time

em .. . Preetam you are right

some mods are in on the take..  they get money from advertisers posting as users..

(although I will plan a tour around few tweetups and barcamps in your area, maybe next year;)

heheheh @preetam

I think virtual attendance helps cross that bridge of time management..

yes.. and we have the wikimania in Gdansk next year.. so I want to go to Poland

Preetam, is it really so obvious? does it not affect their opinion though?

ah, great, let's meet there!:) ages since I was in Gdansk!:)

they don't care.. I have some Chinese friends who do that..   infact sometimes businesses are approached by the forum admins.

i thought it would be the other way around! companies approaching mods...

Also the people know that these are fake posts.. but the posters don't care..as they see this as another place where atleast people will hear about their products

how will we accumulate a study out of this discussion? are you guys getting any answers?

China is very advanced.. everytime I go there I learn new things..

I will out all the learning together after two days in a powerpoint, and you can always refer to this chat

social media has made its place in every society , in west or east or anywhere in between- people will use it for business, identification, friendships and what not -

I am also keeping an eye on the agenda, so we address all the points

Sylwia cool , just let me know if i can assist in anyway

Bilal, yes, but in different regions there are different trends, we talked for instance about the fact that some regions (Middle East) are monoligual, so develop differently than Asia...

yes.. and Japan and China are worlds in themselves..

Preetam, is China leading the social media in Asia, dare you say so?;) no seriously?

What about other countries, Bilal, you mentioned blogging in Pakistan is based around politics, how about lifeblogs? technology blogs?

I think yes.. in numbers.. in unique trends Japan is still strong.. but japan does not have the numbers.. I think in terms of impact on rest of the world.. China is more imporatant..

Vietnam has good tweetups (I am sure Chip will helps us out, maybe tomorrow), so there must be technology blogging developped there too...

for example.. a negative posting about a foreign school in chinese forums can reduce the students applying for a course in that school... so many chinese are online that news travel fast

Preetam, how about India? you come from India, do you stay in touch with Indian social media?

though in VN they are concentrated in Saigon..

ok

Sylwia we run a technology blog ourselves , its available at http://genexbs.com/blog/ but I don't know many other companies blogging, nor i have seen famous people starting to blog in Pakistan like celebrities, etc. however many celebrities are on Facebook

India is pretty big.. it is hard to follow..   they used to do India wide blog camps.. but now they do regional

are there barcamps in India?

I know Monik Kinom (am I writing his name right?), now 14 years old, did the second Twestival in India now, he is a technology blogger...

Sylwia probably you don't have idea, our country is in serious crises.. so people are more concerned about government, politics, and war

oh there is one barcamp every week in India.. they also have. very specific ones.. healthcamps.. startup camps.. they even had a failcamp - for startups that failed

@Bilal. I have met Dr. Awab.. nice person

Bilal, I understand and I see a lot of it in news and in global voices...just see from Middle East for instance that for some regions facing political crisis blogging, lifeblogging, technology blogging tends to provide a brigde with global community

Sylwia were you in Budapest?. Pakistani bloger Dr, Awab was there.

and also opportunity to have a voice, with less risk of your blog being filtered or yourself being in direct danger

NO! I so wish I were! You guys had a Summit when I lived in the UK already!

I can only comfort my pain with the fact that thanks to Budapest based Polish blogger who posted about the summit I learned about GV;)

Preetam yeah I know Dr. Awab - we are connected at twitter , he is also operating bloggers.pk i think..

Impressive aggregator!

Can I ask a bit different question?

What is the popularity of other types of content - videos, photos, podcasts - in your regions?

Podcasts is nearly non-existence in China (from what i ve seen)

Singapore (and more bandwidth regions) Videos are doing well, Others mainly text and photos, podcasts have not really taken off mainly because most people don't know how to subscribe... though people post videos a lot more

In Pakistan in my view
Podcasts (very low )
Photo sharing through facebook and twitter (HIGH)
video casting is starting to bild (low)

and since Youtube is banned in China, we have a numbre of local video hosting sites and partly because a lots of TV programmes are being recorded and uploaded, they are vastly popular, especially amoung the female communities

what about flicr?

in terms of consuming content.. I see an interesting trend.. less tech savvy people prefer watching youtube to learn about cooking, tech, religious stuff etc.

hardly anyone from China (i mean those who has never been abroad) uses Flicr or any other photo hosting sites, They just blog or post within forums

yes.. flickr is popular.. though blocked in China and Vietnam

I am going to be completely ignorant - how popular/expensive is an iPhone? you can post podcast from that phone...

you can post a video.. but not podcast.. as you have to first create a blog and then an XML to do the episodes of the podcast.

Preetam, less tech savvy people watch youtube? it is very popular in Middle East and in Europe...

in China, iphone is more of an fashion icon, or an accessory than a phone. ppl hardly use them for anything else other than call/txt/gaming/browsing

can you not use AudioBoo?

ah. and music if i might add that in

Also for your podcast to be featured in iTunes, you need an US (or UK, Japan etc.) iTunes account.

truth...

Sylwia i have seen quite many Pakistani users are flickr .. also people love iphone like anywhere else.. even in my home, we are 3 brothers and both of my brothers have iphones, i don't as i stick with my macbook pro all the time

yes,, audio boo works well.. though I don't see that much as I think people are concerned about the data plans on iPhone.. once they go down.. you will se a lot more.

I wonder if AudioBoo.fm is available in your regions, in's a nice podcastign app, and a social network too...

Preetam, good point!

but they don't use iphone much other than games etc. and some facebooking

to blogg you need to have a mindset of writing and composing and sharing and connecting with others

generally people don't have that attitude here in Pakistan

i think in this region.. spoken audio never really took off.. people prefer to post youtube rather than just audio

guys. it's nice to have talked to you all but i ve gotta shoot. will check back tomorrow.

bye now

thank you for being here Eddie! nice to talk to you again!

Zaijian Eddie.. mingtian jian..

we want to start a new project, webvoice.org

to start more podcasts from Pakistan

hay Eddie ! take care and have a good day

interesting!

JOIN.PK is also our project

I follow you on Twitter now;)

i am one of the founding members of the site

Dwight, are you still around?

thank you Sylwia, i have heard good things about you from Hasnain

yes.. Dwight is not around.. i want to join the next tweetup in BKK

I will put you in touch with him...

@insearchofsanuk on Twitter btw

I was about to talk about Twestival..hm..

nice.. sanuk means fun in thai

nice.. sanuk means fun in thai

Bilal, I will check your projects, and spread the word;)

Sylwia we are investing in building a company which will only work on social media for other corporates promotions and social media presence

sorry firefox just commited mutiny

yes, I heard:)

Sylwia i will be grateful for that - we are here to collaborate and help each other

a, hello!:)

Bilal, what help do you need from others?

interesting bilal.. I will talk to you offline too.. I want to learn more about the scene in Pakistan.

exactly:) all tips are more than welcome:)

Dwight, can we talk about Twestival? how did yours go?

yes, it went well, posted the results yesterday. raised $1572

K..  I too will log off.. see you guys tomorrow.  i want to tease Chip.. dwight .. see you in BKK  unless you are coming to Barcamp PP

Sylwia not help in terms of money or promotion, in terms of acceptability and respect

Preetam, thank you for joining !:)

Preetam i am impressed with your kind attitude towards Pakistanies -- where can i keep in touch with you?

Bilal, I am sure we can do that:)

@preetam i am following you now. lets meetup

preetamrai@gmail.com @preetamrai on twitter..

sure.. see you guys..soon.bye..

Sylwia thats great

okie thanks Preetam i will follow u

Bye Preetam!

great result for Twestival, Dwight!

I am sure Bilal would be interested in making a similiar event, not sure if locally though...or how it would work - Bilal, what are the options for you guys to gather and organise social media events?

Dwight, are you going to do another one in 2010?

Sylwia we will be doing it in future, from the site JOIN.PK you can have an idea, we will be one of the biggest players in the Pakistan Cyber World, so we have to ultimately conduct events and help people find more awareness about cyber life

we also had close to 400 party people show up. digital democracy came through and did some live footage and interviews. was good, but i would like to see the thai twitter community pick up the next one

we are on to it , committed 101% , I see a future on Internet for us, and that people can earn and develop at the same time

check the main site then http://www.twestival.com, Bilal

Sylwia i need to leave now - its time to break the fast and eat something

it was a pleasure talking to all of you here, and you can contact me anytime you need any input from my side

Dwight, did you have a lot of work with it? did you have other organisers too? 400 attendees is really impressive!

Thanks Bilal

okie i will check on the site and will get back here tomorrow same time .. is that ok?

Bilal, thank you for joining us today!:) Real pleasure!

sure:) I will be here!

okie then bye bye

bye!

yeah. i teamed up with a group that pushes green causes and they had a big following

did you do it all via Twitter?

no.

no

I think we made a mistake of doing a lot offline, and outside of Twitter...

our raised money was great, but I would expect more on-line coverage...

so where was the party? what fund-raising activities did you plan?

i didnt really feel like i had a choice here. there was such a short time span and the expat twitter community isnt huge here. and the thai community is well.... the thai community

very closed?

well its language based.. so i think for the most part its difficult to access

its possible, but to do so and to have enough of a following to plan an event and have people follow is very difficult

we just had a party. we did a few small things like selling handicrafts from the orphanages and signing the posters that i delivered to them this past monday. but it was basically a dance party in a place usually only open to private parties

I think you did very well in such a short time!

so we did well, but if it's going to get bigger, it will have to be picked up by the local community. they're capable of doing it. they had a large twitter event the weekend before

also, since you did it once, it should be easier for the thai community to pick up the next one, don't you think?

I see..

even our tweetups are geared more towards anyone than twitter users

why is that?

but still, you meet anyone - as in anyone blogging, anyone in technology, or anyone generally?

because twitter isn't big here for most people here. most of the usage is still the original tech crowd. not like in the us/uk where it's goin mainstream

anyone generally

that may change in the future, but for now its still small

do you know if bloggers meet offline?

they do. well i can speak for the expats for sure, but my guess is meetups are frequent

your blogging is really for the cause, no? and you blog in English, what is your network? who do you talk to? both on-line and offline?

well we started the tweetup with the intention of the meeting the twitter community, but what we found out was there wasn't reallly a meetup for do-gooders in bkk... well not a relaxed, fun one

so there's a twitter following, but we get couch surfers, eng teachers, and lots of randoms depending on the night

it's a challenge to change it then...however if you keep doing it I am sure you will find the right audience

maybe you will need to create two types of meeting at certain point of time?

im ok with it. we have fun. it helps get the word out and now i have more volunteers than i know what to do with

but the cause part of it is optional always... but it always comes up. same as twitter usage

by the way, tomorrow morning (GMT time) there will be more life discussion on NGO's and activism here: http://csf.ceetrust.org/livechat/ you might be interested!

and from the feedback thats what people like about it

good:)

hmm... long night or early morning...

do you have an on-line place, a hub there all of the attendees can meet?

ah, sorry:)

they said the recording will be available on-line though:)

my facebook group & bangkoktweetup.com

I think I am running out of questions. is there anything related to social media you would like to talk about?

tell me about your twestival

i know you're exhausted... same here...

no, it's ok:)

our twestival was great, you see..

it was a combination of best of the best that Oxford has to offer, in a very small pub meeting:)

we had a Catweazle club artists - it's an art evening which runs every Thursday since 14 years! coming over and playing for us, so basically we had 10 performances within...4 hrs?:)

then we had bloggers who travelled to different Twestivals and met finally in ours to share their experiences

and we were raising money fo Oxfam, a charity coming from Oxford, so popular and embeded int he community that one of Catweazle artists actually works for them and performed a nice poem written for the occassion

Ben Walker (check youtube for Twitter song) who lives in Oxford has sent us video messagge

and the sum was nice (£1570)

I just think I should have also focused on on-line promotion and documenting, more press coverage, but well...next time:)

mostly from tickets?

no, one third from auction, only £210 form tickets really, some from sponsors, some from raffle and cash on the night

and hey, I got to wear Twestival t-shirt http://www.flickr.com/photos/benwerd/3919962121/

here is more photos http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=oxtwestival&w=all

I think there should be more contact between Twestival organisers before the event, I think there were some good ideas in different places...

thanks if you didnt see the vid i just posted here you go http://www.insearchofsanuk.com/2009/09/big-thanks/

Rockstar!

ahh, great! I hope we will be able to show some results too, I really like the videos!:)

here is one of the bands, I hope you can hear some music;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_dY0W1w7ow

so were you the lead organizer? did you team up with any other groups?

and another one http://audioboo.fm/boos/63038-live-music-at-oxtwestival

I was the lead, but had great 5 people to help out

oh... im seeing a lot of youtube twestival stuff

I like your video from the event, it's good to see having it explained - what happened;)

Dwight, will you be joining the discussion tomorrow?

haha, i wish i could say i planned that

im going to try my best to join for some portion of it

great!:)

shall we chat more then?

I know, planning is not always the case, haha:)

I think we should stop here, and continue tomorrow

ok, thanks for putting this together

I think Chip form Vietnam, who promised to join us, as well as Paulus from Amsterdam, will want to talk about Twestival too

even while the building is burning or whatever is happening there

sounds good

No worries, I am happy we could all chat. It seems like just chatting, but I really hope we will all benefit from sharing our experiences and ideas, and I am happy to see some of us could network already

haha, right

great, nice to chat to you Dwight!

well i've already made some more connections

thanks!

bye

great!:) bye!:)

Just to everyone, as I know there and will be people checking this chat later - we will have another session tomorrow at 12.00 GMT. I will also put together a power point presentation will all the insights on slideshare after tomorrow's session. Thank you to everyone for joining!

hi again!

I will wait for few attendees to kick off;)

let me know when you join!

Hi Sylwia - I'm in

Hi Paulus, how are you?

thank you for the links to Twestival materials, btw, I read the presentation - very interesting.

I'm great! The social media talk I did, yesterday, was received very well. Very attentive and interactive crowd. Quite some have started twittering as a result. Awesome!

Brilliant! do you have it somewhere on-line?

Congratulations!

Hey I am Sana from Pakistan. I work as a Feature editor for a British Publication and can be found online on Global Voices, Pro-Pakistan.com, world focus and my own blog http://sanasaleem.com

Thank you. I am sharing these slides just with the client organisation. There's stuff about acquisition etc. in there that I created especially for them.

Ah, apologies!:)

I am happy it went well though!:)

Hi Sana, nice to see you here:)

Paulus, do you want to share any of your URL's with attendees?

Assalaam alaikum, Sana.

I'm from Amsterdam, Holland. I am a professional speaker and consultant in new media. I am also into photography, birdwatching, India and running

yesterday we have touched upon the fact that bloging in Pakistan is rather political, do you think that is the case?

I did not get the answer in the end - is the technology blogging, lifeblogging popular in Pakistan?

Paulus, I hope Preetam will be able to join us today as well, he is  originally from India;)

@ Paulus: Nice to know and walikum salam

@ sylwai: yes the political blogs are quite famous though but there are in fact a lot of technology bloggers even more than the political ones. Feel free to check out http://teabreak.pk the biggest blog aggregator in Pakistan

Can't wait to meet Preetam

Feel free to connect with me via LinkedIn, FriendFreed, Facebook, Twitter (paulusveltman) etc.

Hey Everyone. This is Hasnain. I am Socialmedia Consultant working at @genexbs you can find me on twitter @socializedweb and @podpro

I am a professional Trainer & Motivational Speaker. I have my Expertise Telemarketing Sales & Customer Support & Looking forward to grow my expertise in inbound Marketing.

@ hasnain : Glad to see a motivational speaker amongst us

Thank you, Sana, for the link. When we did the Middle East panel it became almost obvious that technology and life bloggers tend to keep their topics away from politics, does it apply to Pakistan too?

Welcome back Hasnain!:)

Paulus, would you call yourself a motivational speaker?

Its Been A great Conversation yesterday. Though i was not active during the seesion but had a chance to read it in night & I am very please to know more people & the ideas they have shared last night. Its really been a great help for me & I am sure it is helpful for Every One.

Thanks Sylwia for Arranging everything & Thanks Sana for Joining.

How are you @Paulus?

@Hasnain Welcome! Looks like we're sharing a professional niche!

@ sylwia : In fact they do, we meet up frequently and have recently announced bloggers award to be held very soon. the thing about political blogs are they were on the rise and highlighted during the media crack down in Pakistan.

@hasnain What's a motivational speaker?

@Sana I see, do you have barcamps too, or meet ups? does Twitter play a role in meet ups too? (apologies, I am thinking based on UK model:P)

@ sylwia: Twitter definately does, in fact we recently did have a tweet up as well, where we discussed how we use it as a tool and various other privacy issues. It was then extended to other cities. Even handed goodies to poeple who used twitter most effectively. I myself also covered conferences via twitter updates

Its also quite interesting that during the 20/20 world cup tweeps from Paksitan were actually live tweeting the match. Making #paksitan the trending topic, it was also used in august on the independence day to post facts about Paksitan that are usually over looked due to recent crisis. This involved over 6000-8000 people all over twitter participating

@Sana brilliant, you must have next Twestival then too;)

very impressive!

@ sylwia :I think we will very soon

I worked with football bloggers in the past and I must say - it's a very conversational group of people, so I am not surprised when you say that the topic was trending;)

Paulus, did we manage to find out what a motivational speaker is? i would like to know exactly what is is...

http://teabreak.pk has over 1300 registered blogs from all over Pakistan. Talking about fashion,sports,personal life and even photo blogging! the scene here is quite diverse

@Sylwia: Quite interesting to hear about foot ball bloggers

yess I agree with you Sana. I wish blogs from pakistan are more on technology then the Politics.

@Paulus I think a Motivational Speaker is the One who can lift some one up to do something that seems impossible.

I am sorry for late replies from my side. I am very Busy please

@sylwia 20/20 is cricket

@hasnain: That is ok, we want quality in put dont worry about quantity

@Paulus, yes, but in general - sport is a passion people really like to talk about, I always found it interesting that conversation about sports is more passionate than actually playing it...

sorry, I am digressing!;)

@sylwia Sorry, too clever

no, I just have a bad habit to overcomplicate and skip explanations:(

@ sylwia o no no I got your message first time around no worries

going back to blogging, @sana what do you think are the trends now? yesterday we talked about China, Thailand, India and it looks like there is no more leading bloggers - the web is fragmenting, is that the case in your region too?

@Paulus, I know we talk about Asia, but I would love to hear your thoughts about Dutch blogosphere too!

@hasnain I try to enable people by educating them. I use enthusiasm and passion to support this.

@sylwia I will return to the main topic, now

The Dutch blogosphere is different from UK/USA in that no one blogs for money, really. It's a hobby, or supports you personal branding.

I agree with you Paulus, knowledge is power;) so, do you have leading bloggers in Netherlands?

@sana, @hasnain how about Pakistan, any really prominent bloggers? Twitte rusers? or rather communities?

@paulus Thats great. its a step by step process I am sure. you educate first and then create a need & then Deifinitly you add up Passion and Enthusiasm to get them where you want.

@sylwia: The trends now are fairly diverse we have a lot of poeple talking about social issues. But juts recently with all the meet ups we have been introduced to a lot of people that are doing tech blogging. Google has been arranging meet ups in various educational institutues to teach pupil how they can earn from blogging. Most of them then start reviewing tech gadgets and all.

We have people who are earning over $ 9000 per month from their blog

@hasnain That's it!

@Sana it's a good way to motivate people to blog, I wonder if there are bloggers who prefer to blog for free and build their reputation as an independent blogger?

@ sylwia we do have a lot og prominent bloggers and twitteres Once of our bloggers has recently been shortlisted for TED India, I ahve juts invited him over too.

There are many bloggers who do work for free and are doing it, we have also had people doing meet ups and talking about strating blogs athat could help start ups by giving them professional advice

We have leading blogs in Holland, not bloggers. Most popular blogs are new media and marketing oriented. However, the biggest blogs are anti-establishment news blogs, fairly right-wing oriented.

@sana, thank you for inviting him! it's great to see such a mature blogospere - so do you have strong relationships with bloggers from other counries? (you mentioned India)?

so what's the topic, i understand it's about social media, but what exactly are you guys focusing on right now?sorry can't read through all the previous comments...excuse my laziness..ahahhaa

hi, now worries;)

we are talking about prominent bloggers in Pakistan

@ mirza: hahahah! Introduce yourself first plz

@ mirza: also we are looking in to whether the political secne in Pakistan is only limited to political blogs or no

as we have been told by @sana, the blogosphere is quite large and very active (offlien too), so I just asked if the bloggers outreach in their connections outside of Pakistan too?

oh right...pakistani broadcast journalist here...news junkie..all round lover of conflict, truth and justice

@sylwia ah ok thanks

Paulus, from Amsterdam, mentioned few words about the fact than in Netherlads ist's rather blogs not bloggers that are popular, and those relate to topics of new media..

@ sylwia: outside Pakistan as in global affairs ?

hi, @mirza9, nice to meet you:)

@sana both globally and in Asia

@sylwia likewise!

yesterday Preetam (GVer) mentioned that in Asia cheap flights allow a lot of networking, I wonder if that applies to Pakistan too..he himself travels around all the possible barcamps and other events in Asia;)

@ sylwia: yes definately , its vice versa actually 'All eyes on Paksitan and the world from the prespective of a Pakistani'

does everyone here maintain a blog?

@sylwia we do have people who do a lot of travelling in fact the bloggers awards I mentioned are meant to be in another city. Usually most prominent bloggers are from khi. The event is in lahore, so that would allow us to travel and meet new people.

@mirza9 I do, http://www.sylwiapresley.wordpress.com/ though I was lazy recently;)

@sana, brilliant! when you go to events outside of Pakistan, do you communicate in English then?

@sana @sylwia as bloggers, what do you guys aspire to see out of your blogs..is there a recurring or ultimate goal?any objectives?

Hi, I'm David Pacha, from Agencja Spolem, Social Media Marketing Agency in Warsaw, Poland.

I'm also writing a blog, however unfortunately in Polish

@david hey..nice to see you... gin dovre

I blog about internet video (from a business perspective) for http://zoomz.nl (in Dutch..)

@DawidPacha Hi!

Nice to see you all. I was watching your discussion yesterday.

so i'd like to extend my question to all of you with a blog...what would you guys like to see come out of your blog..goal objectives etc?

HI David, nice to see you here;)

@DawidPacha Jump in! The water is warm

@mirza9 it's a difficult one for me, as I have few blogs, and each has a different goal...but if I were to generalise - probably I want to give value to the readers, pending the topic I write about

my UK?ENglish blog is about events, social media, trends  - all related to social media and activism - so my readers get to learn interesting stuff, and since they usually know me, they trust I give them quality info

@Sylwia do you have readers on your mind when posting a blog or yourself? Yesterday I met a blogger, who say, she only writes for herself.

@sylwia and do you see it as a way to eventually start earning from it, or to blog for another revenue earning organization? or are you content just writing it..or both?

I just started a blog about 'how to blog' (very much under construction) because so many friends asked me about it, I felt I safe time simply putting it all on-line;)

@dawid - it's an interesitng one, since I started to blog the same way - for myself and my friends - I used blog as a journal (you know, one you have in your drawer) to write out whatever bothers me, to write down things I want to remember (partially it is still the case) but as I learned more about social media I decided to stop (on UK site) and start postign about a specific topic, not myself.

@mirza9 one day I might decide to make money from my knowlegde, maybe write a book, but not sure if I want to earn directly via blog...

@dawid your blog is directed to readers, no? you write about social media too, not so much about yourself?

and I guess @Paulus dies the same, no?

@sylwia would you like to get picked up as a writer?

Correct. I have a private blog, but that's called Twitter

@Paulus interesting, so you decide on the tonality and content depending on the platform you are using? how about your photosharing? are you on Flickr? what content do you share there?

@mirza9 I am not sure yet, I am poet you see, I am not sure I would like to write different stuff, I need to try first;) but to explain - I like to make money from work, which might be related to blogging, but blogging as such is my passion, and those I rather do in an independent way - if that makes sense

this discussion makes me wonder (question to @sana and @mirza9 really) does the state of blogosphere (the stage of development, the meetups, incorporatign new technologies in blogging, movign to new platforms, supporting start ups) reflect the global trends?

Now you have me talking! Basically, I try to find a platform that "feels good" for what I want to do.

So, since I am a photography enthusiast, I am on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulveltman/sets/ - but I keep my mobile (lifestream) pics away from there, because it's a quality focused community on Flickr, not an image dump.

@sylwia yeah that makes sense..

@sylwia I write directly to my users. It is for my self only indirectly. I like the feeling of sharing and it makes me happy and fulfilled.

@paulus makes perfect sense, so you need to have a plan, your own social media strategy in your head - what is the aim?

@sylwia I thing it does change global trends. Internet startups change global trends and their beginings are on meetups. No other place for young entrepreneurs to show what they got, gain attention of venture capital

@dawid ha, and here comes one of the main blogger characteristics, no? we want to be happy about what we do and how we do it - the satisfaction comes from sharing, and probably - as the next step - from collaborating...do you agree, @sana, @mirza9?

(@Paulus I love your photos from India, btw;))

@sylwia: I think it does, sorry fr my delayed response

@sylwia well put!

@sylwia hahah i agree, i don't blog, but yes that is what i do in my profession

@dawid yes, however I am not sure if I here, in the UK, actually realise how many start ups become influential in Asia..I feel (and I might be wrong) there is a gap somewhere on a global level...

@dawid started;)

@sana no worries, my chat is slow too...slower than yesterday..

ok, when we are talking about blogging to you all think of actually postign on a blog, or tweeting, podcasting, videostreaign too?

apologies 'videostreaming'...

I expect that the traditional blog wil evolve into a kind of lifestream container, mixing the elements @sylwia mentioned. What do you guys think?

Hi this is Awab from Pakistan

@Paulus streaming will evolve. Thats true. I want to use services that agregate my activity around the web and enable me to publish this in one place. We got Friend Feed, but it's not the same.

I thing that blogs will not change much of this concept appart from comments part. You see that commenting moved to friend feed, facebook, twitter, digg? A blog post can be viewed 10 000 times and yet no comment there.

New services need to be available like ECHO that agregate all those comments on the web that refere to your blog post and displayed under the post. Check this how it works http://js-kit.com/ 

I cant see any updates :S Is it just me

hi @Awab, nice to see you here;)

@sana, try reloading the page, plz

Hi Awa!

@Sylwia it's true we don't hear about startups in Asia, or maybe we here but we don't know they actually are from there? In the global word nobody wants to show what is the country of origin unless it is USA. If you tell you are from Bangladesh, users think this  is targetted at Bangladesh people. You can't change this effect. There is also problem of "country of origin factor". Anyway, it is hard for example to know that for instance joobili.com was started in Hungary.

I completely agree with Dawid

@sana - I hope you can read this - but maybe @Awab can help out - what is the situation with commenting on blogs - do those conversations move to other places, like Twitter, FreidnFeed?

@Dawid IMHO it's not about comments, it's about conversations. Blogging platforms need to evolve from the hierarchical content-management systems of today to more fluid and real-time lifestreaming systems.

It's already happening, like http://p2demo.wordpress.com/

valid point @paulus

once again I am going to pass this question to our colleagues from Pakistan, do you see the trends @paulus and @dawid are talking about in your region?

do we have connection issues? who can see my updates now?

@sylwia: I can.

ok, others?

hm, I think we might have to stop here, if others have technical issues...

ok, @Paulus, do you mind if we stop here?

what I'll do I will send around an update (probably in form of a power point) including all the points we have raised and I will arrange next meeting

however all the points made will be still available on this site too

@sylwia Ok. Never mind. It's brilliant weather over here, so I was a little tempted anyway

I read all chats from yesterday and was surprised about the amount of very interesting info.

Looking forward to any summary you might produce.

Have a great weekend.

Cheers!

thank you!!:)

I hope we will have a tweet up on Twestival though outside of this chat;)

thank you very much for attending!:)

thank you very much to everyone who attended today and yesterday! I will put together notes and send them to each of you via e-mail together with the date of the next meeting. in the meantime, please let me know your feedback on the topics, chat, time, anything you can think off!;)

have a lovely weekend!

@ sylwia: I just got through now btw @awa is the blogger quite popular and recently selected for TED india

about conversations extending to twitter and friend fee they most certainly do, we have quite a lit fo heated debates ove ron twitter

hi,welcome back:)

All right! It was great attending! would love to be updated! lovely weekend people!

all right!:) thank you for joining! @awa and @sana - can you please drop me an e-mail to sylwia.presley@1000heads.com so I can send you the notes?

@Paulus Veltman IMHO blogging is not that about conversation. It is about publishing. Comments make conversation. Thise Wordpress theme you showed us is similair to Twitter. It shows lots of comments. But users arent really eager to leave those comments. They prefere platforms. I don't think that showing comments on main page will change this fact.

Dunno if this is over or not im Faisal from Karachi, Pakistan and blog @ http://www.deadpanthoughts.com heya all of ya!!!

I see the discussion might be still happening;) feel free to use this channel!;)

Good morning Sylwia!

Good morning:)

Here are the notes from the panel: http://www.slideshare.net/1000heads/wom-expert-groups-asia

Hey, I am monik, a entrepreneur, blogger, web developer and lots more My blog - http://www.etiole.com and my twitter presence : http://twitter.com/monikkinom

hi Monik, can you join us in 'Latin America' topic please?;) thx